darthdevidem01 said:
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So The Wii is controlling this generation as much as the PS2 was.
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Ps2 marketshare: 74%
Wii marketshare: 48%
Third party support: Not even close
Can't find any figures on total software sales but I think ps2 dominated the market on that aspect with close to 70% marketshare. Wii has less than 45% share of the software sold this gen.
How is wii controlling as much as the ps2 was?
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It's not.
It's also worth noting that the PS2 had more competition... With the Dreamcast, Xbox and Gamecube. Wii only has 360 and PS3 to contend with.
OT: As I have said before... I wouldn't be surprised to see these following things happen on a regular basis next year -
NA - 360 > Wii > PS3 EMEAA - PS3 > Wii = 360 Japan - PS3 > Wii > 360
I also wouldn't be surprised if we saw a Wii replacement from Nintendo ready for the Holidays 2011. Wii support isn't looking all that great, and they will try to launch Super-Wii with the same kind of support the 3DS seems to be getting.
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I totally agree!
But a super-wii won't get the type of support the 3DS is getting.
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3rd parties can't just ignore Nintendo another gen. If Nintendo will do a thing like a PS2-like console, they will come. No doubt.
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No because unlike the DS' competitor PSP, the Wii's competitors are actually extremely good at selling software.
With 3DS it was extremely easy for Nintendo to get all 3rd parties on board
With Super Wii it won't be.
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Don't know about that. DS was/is a disaster at selling mature games but there are already lots of mature games coming to the 3DS.
It's getting Metal Gear Solid and Resident Evil, and where were those on the DS?
If Wii 2 arrives first (which is very likely), has PS3/360 or better specs (and preferably has some kind of unique feature) I think it's very likely that it's going to get good 3rd party support. Just having better specs will almost guarantee it getting much more multiplat titles than the Wii is getting.
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MGS didn't sell "that well" on the PSP either.
And RE wasn't on the PSP much either.
So here your not seeing devs "jumping ship" from PSP.
The DS has pretty much been praised by most devs for its software selling power, the problem is Wii doesn't have this same acclaim from developers, in fact you see many devs blaming it fairly or unfairly. The developers have set up a hardcore base of fans for their "big" franchises on PS360, I don't think they will risk "jumping ship". If Wii2 has specs similar to a PS4 then I'm sure it'll get ports, but otherwise I don't think the situation's gonna change much on the console side.
And now we're seeing Wii weekly sales so close to PS360, another thing the DS never went through in its days against the PSP (apart from the first year when they were neck n neck) nor any former leader in the most recent generations. So with Wii 2 the devs won't even have a complete guarantee of an utter dominance like the Wii has had in its heyday let alone the PS2.
All of that put together tells me the Wii 2 won't get the kind of rapid support 3DS is getting in terms of 3rd parties.
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But it's still getting mature games, and it has certainly not been praised as a great seller of mature games. In fact, it only has one million selling mature game.
No one needs to jump ship. It's not "make 360/PS3 or Wii2". Not many 3rd party games are exclusives these days and that will probably continue. If Wii2 has similar, or better, processing power to 360/PS3 it will be much easier to make the games for Wii2 as well than it was with the Wii due to the huge difference in power (and interface) between 360/PS3 and Wii.
Of course, some exclusives would be cool as well. If Nintendo continues to work with 3rd parties that will secure them a couple of exclusives. Being the first 8th gen console will attract some more. The Wii is declining but we are still looking at a 100m console, and if Wii2 has some unique feature (and more powa) I think it will attract 3rd party exclusives.