Arizona "your papers please" immigration law

[Kantor]

Kasz216 said:

Kantor said:

Kasz216 said:

MrBubbles said:

what happens if you are just visiting and get pulled over for something? 

You show them your drivers liscense and your fine?   Really, I wasn't a fan of this law at first... looking at it though, I don't see anything that shouldn't arleady be done. 

 I mean, if someone comits a crime that has a penalty you should need to confirm their identity... so you make sure they pay the price.

And if it turns out they are an illegal alien... they should be turned over to immigration.

I mean, there isn't anything reall controversial about it.

They should just remove the "If there is reasonable suspison" part since it might lead to illegal candadians, british etc from slipping through the cracks.

So you want a police officer to say the following.

"Excuse me, sir, you were going 5 miles an hour over the speed limit. Can I see your green card please?"

Also, why the hell would anyone from Canada or Britain go to Arizona of all places? Both are among the wealthiest countries per capita in the world. Hell, Canada has a higher development index than the United States, and Britain is 0.009 points lower.

Or just... you know.  There Driver's liscense.  Once they run your Drivers liscense they'll know everything about you.

As for your second question.  The Weather. 

As for Development index... eh, it's not even worth getting into it.   I'll just say, take a good look at what makes up the development index.

Edit: eh what the heck... we'll go into it a little.

A) One reason Canada beats the US and the UK is close?  Infant Mortality rate.

Why does the US have such a high Infant mortality rate...?   Because we report it differently from the rest of the world.  Any baby born alive that dies is considered a death. 

AIn the rest of the world like the UK and Canada... they have to fit "standards" to be considered alive.   Babies that are below a certain height or weight aren't counted in other countries because there was "no chance" to save them.

When you account for this... Life Expectancy doesn't matter.  So a wash.

 

B)  The second part is the education Index... This really isn't going to effect anybody who would move to the US, since the big laggard here for the US is literacy rate... which if your worried about your kids... it'd be easy for you to teach them to read.

 

C)  Per Capita income adjusted for PPP.   The US actually wins in this.   It's also basically the only stat that would effect an immigrant.   Coming here to make more money, keep more of it, and it being able to buy more seems like a pretty good reason.

I could grant you that, in some respects, the US is a nicer country than the UK or Canada, but:

a) If I was moving to the US, Arizona would hardly be the first state I would consider. New York, California, Florida, all of these would probably come to mind first. Since I'd need a plane, anyway, it wouldn't make much difference.

b) The difference isn't significant enough to illegally immigrate. Compare Mexico to the USA. One is impoverished and full of starvation and crime. The other isn't. Compare Canada, the UK, and the USA. None of them are impoverished, none has particularly high crime, all are among the best places in the world to live (not counting those cheating Central European countries with no tax).