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Soleron said:
trestres said:
Soleron said:

@trestres


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Stop putting words in my mouth. I never said outside beings were affecting the universe, I said an outside being is the source of the universe

So it affected something in the universe then. What? Caused the Big Bang?

, plus you cant seem to grasp the idea of a being that trascends matter, time and space.

You're right, I can't. I'm imagining a yellow-purple round square. Just because you can use those words in that order doesn't mean it makes sense.Either you are saying a being exists within the scope of science (matter, time, space), or you leave scientific concepts out of the argument altogether. Combining them isn't consistent.

That's what philosophy arrives to, and using human reasoning only. If you have the ability to reason and you understand logic you will see that what I say is not contradictory with anything in our universe.

Neither are pink unicorns. Yet you seem to believe one exists but the other does not. Why?

I also never said God was part of this universe, cause it's not. Time is part of our universe, and I never said there was no dark matter or dark energy. Try reading my posts before inventing stuff

If God is not a part of this universe, he can't have affected anything in it and thus you can't use science to determine its nature. You seem to want to use science to say where God could be (universe is expanding, or we only know about 90% of the universe) but then are inventing terms (transcending time and space) which aren't consistent with any science we know about.

I ask: what toolset are you using to examine the question of God? Science, logic, something else?


You are a positivist, that's evident now. Only science can explain things for you. You are completely denying human reason. Take a few philosophy courses before saying I'm inventing terms.

I'm using science and human reasoning to arrive to this conclusion. They are basically the conclusions you arrive to in philosophy. Read The Quinque Viae (5 Arguments for the existence of God) from St. Thomas. No, he is not basing his arguments in faith, he arrives to them by using reason, you can arrive to them as well, as can any human being. 



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