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dtewi said:
trestres said:

I'm basing myself on what science has said. The universe has boundaries, the universe is expanding.
Plus I don't think you understand what I'm trying to tell you. Beings outside the universe would be immaterial, infinite, atemporal, undivisable. It's impossible to understand since we are in a universe where matter and time are part of our lives. But the fact that matter or time cannot exist by their own, means there's something that has been the source for it. You can't get something out of nothing, that's one of the basic principles of logic.

I said that something wasn't created out of nothing.

I am saying that matter did not spring from nothing, the Big Bang didn't make matter. It was always there.

You're still saying that it was from nothing, but it wasn't. 

I'm not saying it was from nothing. God is something.



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