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I finally found a thread worth posting in. 

Everything you're saying is 100% true.  As long as Nintendo stays Nintendo they will stay on top and the counter culture as you so accurately put it is split down the middle, things will stay with them in front for a while. 

This is why Microsoft and Sony's shift towards the casual gamer is questionable to me.  I mean Sony fans are Sony fans and Microsoft fans, so why would they want something similar to Nintendo?  I mean, I don't see them taking the casual market away from Nintendo.  Also, I think that it will turn a lot of MS and Sony's customers off.



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