Zelda was pushed back to refine visual style, says Shigeru Miyamoto!

[MaxwellGT2000]

theprof00 said:

MaxwellGT2000 said:

theprof00 said:

I understand your points but I must also say that nobody really talks about wipeout. Zelda is topical, that's why I talk about it. It's always on people's lips. Wipeout isn't.And besides, I still play the games. I've played all the newest ones, and I'll probably play this one. How am I immature?

You're a more convincing writer and more knowledgeable on the subject, so I'm not going to bother arguing my feeling with the little idiosyncrasies that seperate the game. I'm just one person who thinks the games aren't what they could be.

I also hate the mentality that you have where you basically write "You are wrong for this reason, this reason, and this reason,......idiot"

No one is calling you an idiot, but the fact is the thread was originally about the visual style and the refining is what's taking so long and it has somehow lead into you going on about how every 3D zelda seems to be OoT all over again (which was for the most part just LttP if you want to get this whole formula debate going) more or less I was asking why do you care and why bring it up in this thread, how about bringing it up in your Sorcery >>> Zelda thread? 

Honestly though people like Khuutra asked you of your opinion and what was wrong/similar and all you do is post pictures... but you could post pictures of a lot of games that look similar but play completely different with a different story, etc.  

More or less it's like, why discuss a game you're obviously not willing to go into detail about why you believe what you believe rather take issue with anyone that asks you to elaborate on specific reasons why and try to play the victim card... when the original topic wasn't even discussing the formula or how it's gotten stale.

you're right. I was off-topic, responding to a post that started with a picture of miyamoto saying oot and mm were stale and nintendo fans can't make up their minds over which games they like.

I guess your problem is that you can't figure out when someone's responding to the op and when they're responding to a post. I understand it's hard. But keep an eye out for little quote windows in their post, and read the context of them to get an idea what's going on. That's how i do it.

Your second problem is that you can't mind your own business. I was talking to khuutra. We get each other. we have a lot of similar tastes, and can debate without insulting each other. I find khuutra to be very intelligent, and sometimes, a bit intimidating, especially when he asks for specific reasons for which I haven't thought extensively about. I didn't want to go into detail because he would thrash me with his experience. He's a huge zelda fan.

EDIT: Except khuutras mature enough to make a point without..

And no the picture of Miyamoto was a joke on 4chan how can you even claim it was a statement from him about the series becoming stale, hell the picture only talked about gamers not knowing what they want, I really don't know where you got that silly notion from.

More or less you started the "discussion" with people like cactus and kage848 then khuutra started to ask you to provide some sort of basis for your claims after you drug them into this thread.  I really don't know why you're trying the attacking tone with me since you're the one that brought it into this thread, you're the one not even backing up your claims instead you want to make silly little posts and bring this thread further off topic, and you're the one taking this so seriously.

I see things very literal and what I see is people discussing the visual style, posting a picture of Miyamoto "saying" gamers can't make up their minds on what they like visually, that was the intent of the picture, you made the first post trying to claim every 3D Zelda was OoT with the exception of TWW, what was your intent?  I have no clue, but when you were asked to explain that notion you post pictures that explain nothing that's when khuutra said "you did not pass" cause you said absolutely nothing.  

When you act like that with my view to take your actions quite literally you came into this thread to take it off topic and then not even back up your claims cause you either want to troll or you simply can't back up your claims for whatever reason, it wouldn't be so bad that right after khuutra asked you to back up your claims and then you didn't you tried to play the victim, you can't do that when you're the one bringing the topic into a thread, if I post in a Final Fantasy X thread about how much I dislike that game I have full intent and know someone is likely to ask me to back up that claim which I will gladly provide information on, you simply did not.

So it's like this man, if you want to bring something upon yourself don't try to act like you're a victim, back up what you say or you simply come off looking like you're trying to start shit that didn't need to be started, period.