I Am Disheartened . . .

[MaxwellGT2000]

loves2splooge said:

MaxwellGT2000 said:
*shrug* I've told people before that it's rather stupid to sell any console unless a new one that plays the old games comes out.

People sell their consoles for other consoles everyday that's how Gamestop lives and breathes if I went "ZOMG NO HE DIDN'T!" Every time it happened I wouldn't have time to live out a normal life.

To be honest I hope it wasn't a choice made by stupidity and ignorance like I've seen happen so often. Hell I tried telling this guy before he traded in his Wii he should probably play some of the good games he didn't even bother with, stopped working at gamestop, became friends with his nephew went over to his house where I was working on my friends Wii and the guy came in, wondering what we were doing, we were talking about all the cool games coming out/already out, he went "really? there were all those games?" then when he was standing there I went online with the wifi connection on the Wii and he went "that thing has a web browser too?" (he has a 360) and then stated how he needed to "get another Wii apparently" and I brought up where I told him to not sell it lol now he's out about 150 dollars, I hope it was worth it lol

This is such a common occurence. On this very forum there was a thread started by a guy who wanted to sell his Wii and someone else jumped into the the thread defending his decision and I clearly explained that the Wii has plenty of great games, you just have to rely a lot on the internet as opposed to brick and mortar to find some of the good games. Since let's be honest, a lot of the third-party "core" Wii games (Nintendo first-party being an exception unless it's Fire Emblem or something niche like that) don't exactly get a lot of shelf space.

But I've already went over how easy it is to go to amazon.com, gamestop.com, bestbuy.com, ebay.com and make a simple search (and yes you will find what you are looking for at these places. Finding Fragile Dreams and other niche games like that is not hard). But then I get the "but I can just go to GameStop and buy what I want for the PS3 and Xbox 360. Why do I have to even put in extra effort to get good Wii games? It's not worth it!" As if making a simple internet search is more of a hassle than driving to a GameStop and back to buy a game.

Most self-proclaimed "hardcore gamers" who are Pro-PS3 and/or Xbox 360 and anti-Wii are a product of marketing and hype machines. If the game isn't advertised well enough, it might as well not exist to them. They don't want to go out of their comfort zone (relying on media hype to tell them what to buy) to go try out a niche game that they may very well like.

In my opinion, a "hardcore gamer" is someone who spends more time than usual on their gaming hobby. The notion that "hardcore gaming" is about consuming heavily advertised, heavily commercialized video games is absurd. In my opinion, playing No More Heroes or Muramasa is more hardcore than playing God of War III or Splinter Cell Conviction. The former two are geared towards the niche gamer. The latter two are geared towards mainstream gamers.

Also many of the so-called "shovelware" games on the Wii may not even really be shovelware if one gave it a chance. Just Dance for one may very well be a fun game. And Wii Sports in my opinion is good for what it is. A pack-in party game collection that comes free with your Wii.

I find the bold to be increasingly true, though if we went by some magazines and sites, even amazing games like CoD4 are apparently shovelware on Wii.  Personally I've been thinking about trying out Just Dance for shits and giggles, I've actually heard good word of mouth stragely enough... then I've seen some entertaining videos come from it.

Honestly you've got some good points, though not all of the marketing hype is strictly a PS3 and 360 thing there's the same thing on Wii, and hell most media is built like that.  It's the consumer safe zone, they're told what to like and how to like it and that's what they go with, hell people could go out and buy vehicles with non gas fuels, do they do it? No, they buy what is marketed and what they know. 

People buy into hype a lot which is why I avoid it, its a monster meant to consume the consumer base and perpetuate sales.  The problem with that strategy is it's taxing on that said userbase, like everyone I know that bought into ipods at the beginning had to go out and buy every update, then it hit the point where its like "that's nothing new" and they had to branch out to iphones and ipod touches, people are going to buy into over hyped games, till they start playing them, not being satisfied, realizing they're paying 50 to 60 a pop, and will wait till they see real reasons to buy the next game and if they could wait till price drops.