I Am Disheartened . . .

[S.T.A.G.E.]

theARTIST0017 said:

S.T.A.G.E. said:

MaxwellGT2000 said:

S.T.A.G.E. said:

I cannot blame your friend. Sony has made the Wii a non factor for me this gen. Nintendo has lost all connection with me. They brought me into this style of entertainment as a child, but Playstation and Microsoft have been keeping me in it. I could care less if Sony copied, because they proved their point about what a hardcore system does and no one can really defend Nintendo. This E3 is do or die for Nintendo....plain and simple.

Unless you play games... not to say there are a shit ton of games out there to try out and play, but there are a shit ton of games out there to try out and play.  Really there has never been a time where one console has made another a "non factor" any way you go about it you're gonna miss out on games, and if your hobby is gaming... then you're missing out on your hobby. Hell I had the Atari Jaguar, the console has like 2 good games on it cause it had such a short lifespan, but its 2 games I got to play and enjoy so my time was well spent. 

Honestly whenever I hear anyone trashing another console cause of one of the competitors made the said console not worth it, I simply see someone trying to justify a purchase of one rather than the other to people who simply don't care, and I hear "derp derp derp" going through my head whenever they're speaking, its the oddest thing.

I guess this all boils down to perspective my friend, so I'll spell it out. The Wii does have a "shit ton" of games out there to play, but an increasingly large amount of them are shovelware. Because of Sony's strictness with quality control I am already expecting Move titles beyond the Wii and thats the way I like it. I like to expect more as things evolve. As I've said in the past, I liked to play COD: WAW with my friends on the Wii, but thats on my friends Wii. I was planning to get a Wii when it came out with enough games that I wanted to play, but Sony basically filled the gap with a preliminary showing which I feel is superior to almost anything the Wii has out aside from a handful first party titles. The Move is basically a Wii-mote on crack and with the camera adds depth to the picture which the Wii cannot replicate unless they gather a camera themselves. It's not just about graphics for me, but that also helps paint the picture, especially if a shooter is involved. I never realized how great the possibilities for a wand shooter was on the Wii until a third party title like COD: WAW and with the PS3...I see that as a non-factor. Mod Nation Racers has replaced Mario Kart for me as a figure of taste. If I want Mario, I'll just create him.....and the scary part is......you can.

I'm not trashing the Wii, but I am stating how I feel growing up with Nintendo and feeling let down. (Example of trashing the Wii: The Wii is a POS!) The OP asked for a comment about how people feel about the situation and quite frankly cannot blame nor condone the way the situation has turned out.

To conclude with another perspective, I mainly talk to older people and the majority of my friends are in their late 20's. I will narrow them down to the friends who actually have the Wii, because the others just don't care for Wii titles unless it's a party game. I have a friend whom is 28 and has saved for a very long time to buy a house so he will not have to have an apartment. Everytime he sees us playing a 360 or PS3 he attributes his purchase to only having the Wii so he could focus on other things in life. He literally told me that if he had a PS3 or 360 he would either have to stop buying games for a long time (which is hard for him if he only has a fork out $60 or less for games after the console purchase). He knows Nintendo is lagging with the games he likes and finds that as a positive so he doesn't have to game. Yet...on his free time I see him at my friends house whom is 26 playing on his PS3 like a mad man (LOL you should see it). 

All my other friends who own the Wii and mainly play it for shooters like the game I previously mentioned were floored when they saw the GT Socom showing back home. These guys are not casual gamers by any means. They have game nights two times a week and play regularly on their own.

I go to an art school for illustration (but also dabble in graphics) but also trains furiously in animation and videogame development which has mainly PS3 and 360 owners and everyone games. The Wii owners admitted that they have been reduced in their free time to playing Tatsunoku (which is a lot of fun) and Brawl as multiplayer titles. When a PS3 or 360 party starts the room is filled. The gamers who create games has no time to play games, but because of the little money they have people swap games and they find it to be in their best interest when they have free time to swap PS3 or 360 games. This brings me to the time I had my paradigm shift about the Sony move, when gametrailers sent a flurry of Move videos our way actually showing us the possibilities. Being a students in a art/technological school, we obviously have to test this product to come up with a final idea, but from what we saw....purely as far as the core in gaming is concerned....its pretty much over unless Nintendo changes the game plan. PC is also the main thing everyone has in their room of course, but I am speaking of consoles. 

Are you somewhat starting to understand my point or at least the perspective?

 

P.S.

You also must admit the excitement is added for the possibilities knowing Microsoft and Sony are hugely behind 3rd parties. This means more quality titles.

STAGE! Hey I have to reply to you also because you said no one can defend Nintendo. Well I'm going to try. I have to do this because you're on the "other" side. Every console has shovelware, theres nothing you can do about it. Yeah Wii has a lot but no on is forcing you to buy it are they? And you said you're expecting move titles to be beyond the Wii why? Because the tech looks to be more powerful. Because they showed off games that are strangely similar to ones Nintendo used in their videos. How is the move a Wii mote on crack? Sure, its accurate but WM+ gets the job done fine. Plus lets not talk about the design of that "thing".  Well I could drag on and on about why the Wii is just as great as any PS3 but then I would end up with five paragraphs :P haha but no really the Wii is just as hardcore as any PS3.

I'm glad there is someone who has the vigor to defend Nintendo, a company which I still respect, but have lost the taste for. You haven't been on edge like others, so I guess this convo will go well and we can talk about this properly. First and foremost I never stated anyone was forcing me to buy the Wii or I felt any pressure to buy it. I stated that I was waiting for at least a handful of games that I wanted on the Wii before I purchased it and it never happened. From my perspective of playing games all of my friends who own all of the systems have only 4-5 Wii games whilst having 15-40 PS360 titles in their library. I'm just averaging things out here. I have a friend who only has the Wii and still the only games he has are the only ones he cares about which are TVC, SSMB and Zelda. As for being hardcore the Wii is not as hardcore as the PS3 and it is says so by the main audience. It's not even as hardcore as the Gamecube. Core fans of Nintendo mainly supported the cube and you could tell in its sales who the games were directed to. The Wii states otherwise. It has hardcore games, but those are supported by an extreme minority now compared to the times of the cube. Have you asked your cousin why he didn't want the Wii? The answers might surprise you, hell...you might even know.

I don't like the Move because it resembles the Wii. I love the Move because I does what the Wii does better and adds to that with the depth of camera view so you can have even more innovative titles released. The preliminary titles on the move have impressed me more than most wii titles excluding TVC, SSMB, COD:WAW and games of that ilk. The move has a life of its own and really and truly with the marketing campaign i'm already seeing for the move, aside from the fact that the controller has too many buttons, the casuals wont exactly be flocking towards it. The hardcore will support it because finally a motion control has come along that can continue to give games to us on the level of what we play with a controller in our hand and experience it in a totally different matter. This is why. Pick your genre, the Move will have the Wii dead beat. As I said as well Sony also cornered Nintendo with Kart racing with MNR.

Can't wait to see your rebut. :)