Diomedes1976 said:
Darc Requiem said:
OriGin said:
Wow... even I think that some people in this thread are far to negative on the PS3. I don't think there is anything to worry about... doom and gloom callers for the PS3 are simply optimistic thinking fans of opposing consoles. Why do people want Sony to fail so badly? There is a reason the PS2 won last generation, and that's because there was the biggest selection of best games on PS2. Why do people want the company that brought you that to fail? Or the PS3 to fail? 1. The PS3 is a magnificent piece of hardware, why talk it down for? The things it's capable of and the things Cell is capable of are mighty impressive. 2. The Wii can't do everything the PS3 can and the PS3 can't do everything the Wii can... they are meant for different purposes, but I'd rather have both. HD graphics are something I personally can't live without and if all the games consoles were as powerful as the Wii I would be upset because I like the leap in power. 3. I don't think PS3 is doomed, not when the good games come and not when the price goes down... most people are waiting for these reasons to buy one and Sony is in their transition period, they are supporting TWO consoles at the moment, introducing one while the other one dies. It's not hard math.. All of that said I don't think the PS3 will be the market leader this gen, but people thinking that devs are going to pull all their efforts AWAY from PS3 in favor of Wii or 360 are mad. + Gran Turismo 5 is enough alone to keep the PS3 alive. |
1. Its really doesn't matter what the PS3 is capable of without games. The X-box and Gamecube were more capable than the PS2. Yet the PS2 dominated the market. 2. They both have different philosphies behind them but at the core they are game consoles. They are meant to play games. All of the extraneous features whether it be the Wii Weather Channel or Folding@Home are inconsequential to most gamers. 3. This is the same flawed argument I see repeated constantly. The PS3 is not going to get more and more good games with substandard sales. The slowest selling console gets the least support. It was assumed that the PS3 would be the market leader so developers threw the majority of their support behind it. Now that PS3 is out and its is continuing to lag behind in sales more and more developers are shifting their support behind the Wii and the 360. At first it was smaller developers like From Software but now its larger developers like EA, Capcom, Sega, and Namco. Your point about them being in transition is moot. They were in transition when the PS2 launched. The PS2 took seven years to get to weekly hardware sales level that the PS3 is at in Japan after six months. People that think developers are going to pull their efforts from PS3 and on to the 360 and Wii aren't mad. They are just stating the facts. Developers are already doing this. The PS3 is not only lagging behind in hardware sales but its lagging behind software sales as well. This is understandable in the US and Europe because it is behind both the Wii and 360 in hardware sales, but not in Japan. The PS3 has outsold the 360 2.5 to 1 in Japan and yet the 360 has continued to sell more software. I will ask this question. Maybe someone will finally answer it. I have seen the argument used that the PS3 will make some sort of comeback in a couple of years. What is this based on? In a couple of years the PS3 will be a niche console. If you look at history the only console to make a comeback over a major competitor was the SNES. Its never sold as poorly in comparison to the competition as the PS3. Unlike the PS3, the SNES was competitive from a pricing standpoint from the beginning. |
The fact is that each and every game announced recently is also planned for the PS3 .The fact is that it will get 100% support from the occidental and japanese developer community and that the X360 wont get as much in the later excepting some heavy hitters as Capcom or Namco.The fact is that as hard as you want to believe otherwise the PS3 actually , and with its poor sales , is selling more worlwide that the X360 .The fact is that the supposed X360 domination worlwide depends on the PS3 selling 10-15K consoles per week in Japan because once it arrives to the 25K figures it will put nearly 100K consoles of difference per month against the 65K-70K monthly advantage the X360 can actually manage in the USA (and that without having in count the european sales ,where even if it was selling slowly the PS3 would still beat the lagging X360 ) . The fact is that the PS3 is very expensive and doesnt have too much games as most are in developement right now .Once the games start flowing and maybe the price gets cut we will see how much the PS3 can sell ,right now we are selling how much the X360 can sell at 400 and it isnt more than the PS3 at 600 ..its natural to understand the PS3 at 400 and with more games will do way better . |
Diomedes how have you come to this conclusion that the PS3 is selling better than the 360 right now? The PS3 has gained little ground if any on the 360 since it launched. The 360 was 6 million ahead of the PS3 at its US launch and it is still 6 million units ahead of the PS3. I was expecting the PS3 to close on the 360 after its Euro launch. After the recording setting first week, PS3 sales have nose dived in Europe. The 360 starts receiving its major release this month and the only increase in number the closer we get to Christmas. The PS3 doesn't get its major releases until later this year and that still won't change the fact that the PS3 is going to be the most expensive system. If/when (I'm leaning towards when at this point) Sony drops the price on the PS3, MS will be able to meet or exceed their price drop. Not only that, they will be able to do so without taking a loss on each unit sold.
BTW, why did you completely avoid my point regarding PS3 software sales in Japan? It doesn't matter if the PS3 out sells the 360 in Japan if the 360 is selling more software. A console with a mostly western leaning software lineup thats getting out sold 2.5 to 1, should not be selling more games than the eastern leaning PS3. The whole reason Japanese third parties are supposed to be apprehensive about the 360 is because of a lack of software sells in their home market. Even if it faltered in the West, the PS3 was supposed to provide a safety net of sorts for Japanese developers looking for big sales of HD focused games in Japan. If its not providing that safety net, what would be the purpose of continued heavy PS3 support by Japanese third party developers?
