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Slimebeast said:
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Slimebeast said:
bdbdbd said:
Zucas said:
Slimebeast said: Yes piracy is theft. You steal a service, someones creation.
For technical reasons in the law piracy is not defined as theft. But the law doesn't own the meaning of words, they have their definition of words and phrases.
Whether piracy hurts the economy or not is not interesting in my opinion. Someone steals something and lets other people pay for it, it's wrong. |
Well to be fair, there isn't too much difference in copyright infringement and theft. Really, it only seems to be the resulting penalty that differs too much because they insinuate the same moral concept: that which isn't yours doesn't belong to you without compensation or consent. Personally, I think the main reason has to do with the idea of theft being associated with a physical loss which is rather outdated for our society.
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But that makes absolutely no sense. There is a big difference if something is actually taken away from you and losing potential gains.
This is like someone would steal your car compared someone copying your car. What you lose is that you can't sell your car to the guy who copied it.
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But the gains are exactly that! The gains is what is actually taken away from you. Thus it is theft.
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So, it's stealing potential? Back to the car example. Would you be pissed if someone stole your car? Would you be pissed if someone would build a car like your on his own and you couldn't sell your car to that guy?
Look, saying that piracy is no different from stealing stuff is huge discredit to people who actually have lost their fortune because of theft.
I'll give a different analogy. As we have had our debates about religion; explain to me what's the difference between god, easterbunny, toothfairy and santa claus? All of them are imaginary, but still some people live how god tells them to. So to them, putting these on the same line is discrediting their religion.
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That means you also think it's wrong to say:
"He stole my idea".
A guy invents something great. Someone else copies his files and is first to make a product/thesis/patent based on the files.
But no, it wasn't theft because the guy's files are still intact inside his house!
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This is different again. The second guy took the rights for the actual product, which is stealing the actual product. We are talking about a case where the first guy has patents etc. for the product and the second guy makes the same product based on the patents to his own use.
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No you misunderstood. What if the first guy didn't have any rights as in a patent? He hadn't registered or presented it for anyone yet. It could be a building plan, scientific research, a music song, anything.
Then someone came and copied all the guys' work and made it into money and fame for himself. But by your logic it wasn't theft because nothing was actually removed.