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Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:

So if I understand well, if it doesnt fit your own personnal pre-selected conditions it shouldnt be taken into consideration? Even if the games shares a same kind and size of userbase and if they are handheld games? Because we all know that console games and handheld games follow the same kind of trend when looking at their respective sales... 

And why did you suddenly changed your standards when you were talking about GTA:CW vs. PSP go! (Profit vs. sales)?

Eh? I have said from the start that it is a sales flop, and not a profit flop. We can't know if it IS a profit flop as we don't know dev costs and we can't really say if 1 Million was enough (especially when a whole bunch of that Million has been at bargain price).

I only brought up profits with PSP Go as it is pretty obvious with the price they are selling for (along with the price of the content on PSN) that it is making Sony some money.


No you didnt.

Btw you completely ignored my whole point. Let me put this clear for you:

Why did you SUDDENLY changed your standards when you were talking about GTA:CW vs. PSP go! (Profit vs. sales)? If you are saying that X game or X console isnt a flop because it is making profit then why don't you use this reason for Y game or Y console?

We don't know dev costs for PSP go! but we can guess it just like we can guess that a DS game which have sold more than a million units (and is still selling well) is making profit. Doesnt sound right to you?

I never once claimed that CW was a profit flop, did i? I said we can't PROVE if it is or isn't.

I didn't suddenly change it. I said it WAS a flop in sales, then someone else mentioned profits in regard to CW... It was only natural to talk about it in both regards.

And i'm sure there was a diagnosis of the costs of PSP Go. I found something from a quick search, but it's from Pachter(lol). Here. I'm pretty sur ei could find more. Apparently, Sony are making a LOT of money per PSP Go.

*sigh*

You know what Carl, I give up. You're a master in the art of not answering a clear question. Because this is what you did, you didnt gave me a clear answer to the question about why you SUDDENLY (and yes you did) changed your standards (or definition) of what is a flop.

But it wasnt natural to talk about PSP in both regards? You see what I mean?

Whatever, don't loss anymore time trying to escape the question, just ignore this post, it will be better for both of us.