jarrod said:
joeorc said:
jarrod said:
joeorc said:
Innervate said:
joeorc said:
Innervate said:
Even the announcement that the next Dragon Quest game being exclusive to Wii did nothing to help support for the system in Japan. Many people stated that this basically clinches all support for the Wii there - instead, even the iPhone is seeing more support. NIS would rather risk bankruptcy on the PS3 than put anything other than PS2 ports on the Wii, several games from publishers like Capcom and Namco are showing up on PSP and iPhone (when Wii ports were considered 'impossible'), Square-Enix's upcoming projects (newly announced KH games in development/conceptual stage, FF remakes) will likely not go to the Wii, and the list goes on. Even when they do give us worthwhile software, majority of the time it's sent to die in retail or conflicts with the values that Wii owners want in Wii games, limiting their sales and contributing to the fallacy that 3rd parties can't succeed on the Wii.
3rd parties have built a reputation of distrust and animosity with Wii owners, and unless they do something that will never change. We have already put up with 3 and a half years of inadequate support, broken promises and bad excuses.
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See I don't think it's the 3rd party's that are the problem, It's the fact that Nintendo has little promotion for third party software for their Wii. that Is a big problem for 3rd party,
One I think may be changing, but the big indication is 3rd party software seem's to be promoted very little by Nintendo, while 3rd party Game's on both the xbox360 and the playstation 3 get's promotion more so than what Nintendo does.
Nintendo see's that they do not need the 3rd party's , and they are right Nintendo is there to sell Nintendo software first and 3rd party's 3rd, the Main problem is if Nintendo is not very willing to promote the 3rd party's software 3rd party's are less likely to make game's for the system.
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3rd party titles get adequate promotion from Nintendo. This should be even more apparent, as Nintendo is doing the marketing and localization jobs for many 3rd parties for titles such as Dragon Quest and Monster Hunter Tri.
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are they?
think about this:
on Nintendo platform's which games win the Most award's 1st party or 3rd party?
just look at the xbox360 and the Playstation 3 look at fallout 3 as an example:
Fallout 3
The Xbox 360 version was the 14th best-selling game of December 2008 in the United States, while the PlayStation 3 version was the eighth best-selling PlayStation 3 game in that region and month.
On
Nintendo's platform on the chart's would Fallout 3 have been the 8th or 14th best selling game on the Wii?
Against the like's of Nintendo's 1st party game's?
I am betting No
You would have to Ask why is that ?
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Trying to repaint effect as causation is a classic strawman. Fact of the matter is, the entire industry was basically fixated on HD R&D before the generation even began, and pretty much everyone's been slow or unwilling to actually follow the market shift. This is precisely why 3rd parties have been more "successful" on the combined PS360 "platform", because that's pretty much where they decided they'd be successful.
With Wii it's a pure chicken/egg scenario, which came first the shitty 3rd party support or the shitty 3rd party sales?
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Once again is it?
"With Wii it's a pure chicken/egg scenario, which came first the shitty 3rd party support or the shitty 3rd party sales? "
an this is a very Valid Question:
shitty sales:
On April 16, 2009, Ubisoft revealed that the game has sold 8 million copies to date.
8 million Shitty sale's
would Assassin's Creed sold 8 million on the Wii ?
Maybe it could, but on the same token would it be ranked 2nd or 3rd on the Wii?
once again I very Much Doubt it
I will say again
Nintendo's platform on the chart's would Fallout 3 have been the 8th or 14th best selling game on the Wii?
Against the like's of Nintendo's 1st party game's?
I am betting No
You would have to Ask why is that ?
again
Assassin's Creed has greatly outstripped Ubisoft's sales expectations and currently ranks among the top two or three best-selling games for the PlayStation 3 computer entertainment system and Xbox 360 video game and entertainment system in the vast majority of geographical regions.
Once again would a game like Assassin's creed have been the one of the to 2nd or 3rd best selling game's on the Wii?
Against the like's of Nintendo's 1st party game's?
once again I am betting No
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I'm not sure what your obsession with "ranking" is, a sale's a sale? It's not like Nintendo doesn't blow everyone away regardless of platform... if that was the standard for entering a market, why make videogames at all since you'll never make the top 10 as long as Nintendo makes games? If a game will do 2m on a Nintendo platform but rank 100th, versus 1 million elsewhere and rank 50th, you really think any 3rd party would choose the latter?
Speaking of Ubisoft though, it looks like Just Dance is on track to be their best selling game... well ever. And it's Wii exclusive, imagine that...
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Just Dance
an
Assassins Creed
"why make videogames at all since you'll never make the top 10 as long as Nintendo makes games"
ahh, but the 3rd party's can Make the Top 10, just not on the Wii !.
Getting Award's also help's with the percieved Value of what the Software is worth.
yea like their in the same target Market. o'l brother...
look while I respect you and All, like I said you May sell great on the Wii, but also on the same token, Movies are made to also get Award's not just money.
"Speaking of Ubisoft though, it looks like Just Dance is on track to be their best selling game... well ever. And it's Wii exclusive, imagine that..."
and the Award for ..Ol that's right where is the Award's for that game?
Despite the reviewers' criticism, the game appears to have been well received by the players themselves. It has a favourable 8/10 user rating One user wrote: "I could care less at what score it gives me, or who wins, it is just plain fun to play."
