joeorc said:
Innervate said:
joeorc said:
Innervate said:
Even the announcement that the next Dragon Quest game being exclusive to Wii did nothing to help support for the system in Japan. Many people stated that this basically clinches all support for the Wii there - instead, even the iPhone is seeing more support. NIS would rather risk bankruptcy on the PS3 than put anything other than PS2 ports on the Wii, several games from publishers like Capcom and Namco are showing up on PSP and iPhone (when Wii ports were considered 'impossible'), Square-Enix's upcoming projects (newly announced KH games in development/conceptual stage, FF remakes) will likely not go to the Wii, and the list goes on. Even when they do give us worthwhile software, majority of the time it's sent to die in retail or conflicts with the values that Wii owners want in Wii games, limiting their sales and contributing to the fallacy that 3rd parties can't succeed on the Wii.
3rd parties have built a reputation of distrust and animosity with Wii owners, and unless they do something that will never change. We have already put up with 3 and a half years of inadequate support, broken promises and bad excuses.
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See I don't think it's the 3rd party's that are the problem, It's the fact that Nintendo has little promotion for third party software for their Wii. that Is a big problem for 3rd party,
One I think may be changing, but the big indication is 3rd party software seem's to be promoted very little by Nintendo, while 3rd party Game's on both the xbox360 and the playstation 3 get's promotion more so than what Nintendo does.
Nintendo see's that they do not need the 3rd party's , and they are right Nintendo is there to sell Nintendo software first and 3rd party's 3rd, the Main problem is if Nintendo is not very willing to promote the 3rd party's software 3rd party's are less likely to make game's for the system.
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3rd party titles get adequate promotion from Nintendo. This should be even more apparent, as Nintendo is doing the marketing and localization jobs for many 3rd parties for titles such as Dragon Quest and Monster Hunter Tri.
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are they?
think about this:
on Nintendo platform's which games win the Most award's 1st party or 3rd party?
just look at the xbox360 and the Playstation 3 look at fallout 3 as an example:
Fallout 3
The Xbox 360 version was the 14th best-selling game of December 2008 in the United States, while the PlayStation 3 version was the eighth best-selling PlayStation 3 game in that region and month.
On
Nintendo's platform on the chart's would Fallout 3 have been the 8th or 14th best selling game on the Wii?
Against the like's of Nintendo's 1st party game's?
I am betting No
You would have to Ask why is that ?
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Trying to repaint effect as causation is a classic strawman. Fact of the matter is, the entire industry was basically fixated on HD R&D before the generation even began, and pretty much everyone's been slow or unwilling to actually follow the market shift. This is precisely why 3rd parties have been more "successful" on the combined PS360 "platform", because that's pretty much where they decided they'd be successful.
With Wii it's a pure chicken/egg scenario, which came first the shitty 3rd party support or the shitty 3rd party sales?
