Why has Japanese 3rd party support almost completely ceased for the Wii?

[joeorc]

trestres said:

joeorc said:

trestres said:

oniyide said:
its simple 1 they make more money on the HDtwin systems, 3rd party games in general dont do that great on Wii, people like money

2 when then do make a Wii game its usually an inferior port or rerelease of a game already played. Why would I get a Wii version of anything if I know I could get it on the other systems?

3 Nintendo dont need them, Sony does, Microsoft absolutely does, if they never release another 3rd party game on Nintendo it wouldnt hurt there pockets at all

4 not really a point, but y dont you get a system with decent 3rd party support????

I don't get another system because I don't have money lol. But that's not my problem anyways.

Your points don't make much sense, if that what you say was true, the companies wouldn't be posting record losses, as they don't even care to make Wii SW. And Nintendo does need them. DS is not only successful due to 1st party SW, take a look at the crazy amount of titles it gets from 3rd party devs.

this pretty much answer's it:

I think this is the Key

"marketing their own video games"

Independent Publishers/Licensees/Licensed Property Owners

Nintendo licenses a number of independent third party publishers to use its patented technology, copyrights and trademarks in developing, creating and marketing their own video games. Additionally, there are a number of intellectual property rights associated with these games that are owned by these publishers. In addition, many independent property owners from such sources as movies, television, sports leagues, etc. license their intellectual properties for use in video games.

http://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp#independent

here is a statement:

"High-quality, effectively marketed against our installed base, will sell. Period. End of story."

-Reggie Fils-Aime

but that beg's the :

Question who's going to market the software?

nintendo or 3rd party?

see above/

 

That's true. They want miraculous results with the least amount of effort. They think that the Wii is a magic machine, but that's not true at all. Look at how their big HD games always get a huge ad campaign, something you almost never see with Wii games. It's true some made an effort and failed, but instead of learning from their mistakes they blame something be it too many 1st party games, lack of active userbase, casual audience. They have to man up and make a good game for once.

 

it's far worse than to man up this is a core fault from Nintendo not 3rd party's:

look at this Q&A from nintendo Investor's Relation's:

, so it may make sense for Nintendo to cooperate in their overseas marketing, for example, by us cooperating in both promotional and marketing activities.
We have been thinking in this manner, and we have already cooperated with some third parties. We did it last year and will do so this year on Mario & Sonic Olympic Games with Sega. The original Nintendo DS and Wii versions of Mario & Sonic Beijing Olympic Games together sold more than 11 million units last year. This year, the new Mario & Sonic Winter Olympic Games will be marketed by Nintendo in Japan and by Sega in the overseas markets. Nintendo is also doing some supportive activities for their overseas promotions too.
So, at a certain time in their development phase, when we can learn the substance of the software from the third parties, we try to think what we can do and how in order to maximize the sales. In the days when it is difficult for a software to pay off in Japan alone, we need to tackle the challenges with the software publishers. As I explained by comparing the memory sizes of a NES game and Blue-ray as an example, the development costs are increasing for the third parties. Recognizing the circumstance, our position is to cooperate wherever appropriate in order to realize the most desirable results.

Iwata:
In that regard, I anticipate the relationship between software makers and Nintendo as a hardware manufacturer to change from now. In regard to the relationship, I often discuss with Mr. Hatano lately that we cannot foresee the future by saying, "It must be like this because it used to be that way in the past." It is time we have to invent new ways.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/091030qa/index.html

the problem is still getting Nintendo to change how it promote's 3rd party software, until it does 3rd party's will still tend to shy away from the Wii.