The Best RTS...

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Rickz0r said:

I'm really amazed at how this thread turned from 'CoH Rox!' to 'Starcraft is the best' so quickly... Really, I created the thread title to lure people in.. I said Starcraft was overrated to end the discussion about Starcraft, that was dumb of me, it stirred up another discussion.. People need to accept the fact, that games amaze you more when you're younger / when you actually played them when they were released. Starcraft has lost it's glory, although it's still being played alot. Heck, it's even still being played at tournaments..

I ended the discussion with KungKras rather quickly, since he couldn't be convinced to take over my standpoint anyway. I'm convinced that he played Starcraft when it was released / when he was younger. It gave him a certain impression, and he won't let go of that. He showed me "Micro Management" of Starcraft, but that was all about exploiting glitches. That was wat I meant with the fact that CoH has MM better integrated. That's not surprising either, CoH launched in 2006.

I played Starcraft a long time myself either, but I accept that other RTSes have surpassed it since then. Sure, it was one of the best RTSes at it's time, and could be seen as one of the best RTSes of all time, but it's not THE best (I'm speaking of quality here, that could be seen as opinion-based, but I think quality can be seen differently aswell.)

I respect everyone's opinions, and I understand alot of people find that Starcraft is the best RTS. But take a moment to step back, let go of your previous memory's of Starcraft, and play it again. You'll see what is has become. There's nothing wrong with that. All games lose it's glory after some time. The gameplay becomes generic, the graphics become bad, the console it's being played on is getting older aswell. (With a PC, you'll get compatiblity issues with old games awell.)

I wanted this thread to be just about CoH. It was my mistake that that hasn't happened since I came up the thread title. It was just to lure people's attention. If I made a thread title with: "Company of Heroes, a great RTS", it would've got like 10 replies, since I'm new here, and people don't care about my topics.

Forgive my ignorance, but please, just think about what I just said. You need to move on, you don't live in the past but in the present. Accept the fact that games are getting better and better, and don't keep comparing it with games out of your childhood,

Goodday.

You're right, the only reason Starcraft was brought up in this thread was your conceited aggrandization of CoH as the best RTS ever. It's good that you've learned your lesson. What apparently has not dawned upon you is the eurudition that your opinion is not fact. Your 'mission' to show CoH as superior to every other RTS is not only profoundly misguided, but has yet to show evidence of anything that would convince any decent gamer to stand by your dogma. Simply saying Starcraft is old and obsolete does not make it so, and your unequivocal lack of knowledge and understanding of the game does nothing to lend credence to your arguments. Your goal is to convince others, but it is a sad fact that you cannot show the same cerebral fortitude or acumen that you expect of others by keeping an open mind on the issue yourself.

In the end, I'm left puzzling this conundrum; Why invite discussion in the first place if all you are interested in is circle jerking over CoH?

Also, Kenny is correct. Starcraft is relatively simple game, and it's immense playability and strategical diversity is derived mostly from it's tactical depth. What separates it from other games of it's kind is the unique diversity and dynamic relationships between the different units. Simply put, if there is anything like a high-level Corsair-Reaver vs Zerg matchup in another game, I've yet to see it.