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wholikeswood said:
 andremop said:
Holidays confirmed.
If not, Sony is dumb confirmed.

Either way... I don't care about this game. It's not going to sell more than Mario Kart, so it's not even the "definitive racer" or anything.

Right, because "definitive" is defined by sales... *roll eyes*

It's the metric that is least subjective, so don't underestimate it.

Subjectively, anyone can say Gran Turismo is the definitive racer. To me, the definitive racer is Super Mario Kart for the SNES, and for me nothing changes that. Same as your opinion on Gran Turismo, which I frankly don't like. Calling for a universal "definitive" answer is foolish to begin with, everybody has a different opinion.

Sales are also determined by a number of different things sometimes unrelated to consumer satisfaction, that includes hype and propaganda. So there's no "definitive" way of framing a game as the best anything other than opinion, trusted or not. There should be no definitive anything, only good recommendations and fine enjoyment.