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Masakari said:
I used to love Jrpgs and FF, but as I got older I started getting tired of the ridiculous childish dialog, always being a 14 year old kid saving the world, and the general emo-ness of jrpgs, and particularly FF. I loved FF6 and FF7, but hated FF8, and then spent a few years out of FF and consoles.

I was interested in FF13, but with the articles and reviews I was disappointed with it, it seems dumbed down. Like i said in the previous page, I'll still get it, but when it drops to half price or something.

But I cannot see Square Enix doing a real, mature, thoughtful, dark FF. I'm pretty sure it's just gonna mean gothy dark emo, like I said. That doesn't mean I'm not interested in it, I'm just saying people are deluding themselves if they think it's gonna be that different from a "regular" FF.

I think they can never truly "mature" it up because that would ignore a huge demographic. I also think you should look into SMT series, as that series might be what you are looking for.