Bitterness in the Wii fandom?

[theRepublic]

Carl2291 said:

Arius Dion said:

LOL. Installed base has always been the argument for why major games go to a market leader, this gen is the exception (and maybe the NES gen as well to a similar degree) which begs the question. I don't see how Nintendo is at all to blame for third parties' offerings, third parties are their own entity and this is business. I'm not a fan of money hatting any way and neither it seems is Nintendo. But please name for me a quality 3rd party core game that has struggled to reach a million? (I guess we aren't even considering dev costs at this point right?)

There are consequences for not supporting the market leader, all these companies posting losses is the result of these decisions. Also the whole "throw a mini game and call it a day" has seemed to have backfired on Ubisoft..but I suppose that's also Nintendo's fault?

The market leader usually has the majority of marketshare. This gen, the Wii has lesser market share then the HD 'Twins', which coincidentally have a big "core" market, and also share the majority of there libraries.

Nintendo aren't solely to blame, but a large part of the blame lies on there shoulders. And i stand by that the marketting for Wii, is what has given it the lead but has also given it that audience that don't care for the big core 3rd party titles.

You aren't a fan of moneyhatting, i don't know all that many people who ARE fans of it... But if it gets you the goods, it is surely something to do. Microsoft have had no problem showing the cash this gen and they have stolen a HUGE piece of marketshare from Sony. While it isn't exactly the best thing to do... It provides results. And when you have piles of cash like Nintendo, it's not too much trouble to use some of it.

People are supporting the Wii though, just not with the titles the majority of "core" gamers want. And again... Why should they? They get VERY good sales on PS360 for a whole bunch of the games. PS360 have greater (and growing) marketshare. PS360 don't have a whole bunch of shovelware. PS360 have proven to have the market to support these kind of games.

As for Ubisoft, it was going to happen eventually to one of the big names. There is only so much market on the Wii that will buy party games and other random shovelware. But then... What if it happens to other big companies? Lack of shovelware (good), and a continued lack of core support(bad)? What then? What if NMH2 doesn't even reach the 500k expeced mark? Will that push Ubisoft even further away?

What big, core third party titles?  Resident Evil 4?  Monster Hunter 3?  Call of Duty?

What big, core third party title performed so poorly?  I can't seem to recall one.  I know quite a few low budget, niche third party games which underperformed according to this forum, but I'm not sure what games you are talking about.