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Azelover on 02 January 2010
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demonfox13 said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
demonfox13 said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
demonfox13 said:
Pyro as Bill said:
Haha, Mario is on his fifth 2d adventure in 25 years. Call of Duty is on it's 6th in 6 years. 4 Mario Kart's since the SNES, how many Halo's?

Who's milking now?

I don't see Mario outselling MW2 360 in America before the end of Jan. It will have outsold it WW before 09 ends though.

Nintendo will have the biggest 'casual' game of 09, Wii Sports Resort at 11M and the biggest 'core' game of 09, with Mario at ~9M. Once word of mouth on Mario 5 kicks in we'll see him outsell all versions of MW2 combined and more.

Donkey Kong which was the first game to feature Mario I believe, then you go into Donkey Kong Junior, then that arcade Mario bros. pipe game with 2 player co-op and competetive, then Super Mario bros. Super Mario bros. 2, Super Mario bros. 3, Super Mario Land,  Super Mario Land 2, Super World, Super Mario All Stars, Super Mario World 2, Super Mario 64, Super Mario Sunshine, Mario & Sonic olympic games thing, Super Mario Galaxy, Paper Mario, MArio and Luigi: Bowser's inside story, Super Mario Kart, Super Paper Mario, Paper Mario: the thousand year door, Mario Tennis, Dr. Mario, Mario is missing (yea that luigi game), Super Mario RPG: Legend of the 7 stars, mario kart 64, Mario Superstar Baseball, Mario Party 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8...., not including the Mario golf games, etc......in your famous words "Who's milking now?" Oh and btw, on the Wii alone there are about 11 Mario and Mario related titles. The 360 has Halo 3, Halo ODST (more of an expansion but for the sake of the argument I'll use it as a full game), and Halo Wars. Halo: Reach is yet to come out, but so is Super Mario Galaxy 2. 

Is it surprising that the Wii titles are selling? Of course not given the install base but credit to where credit is due, the 360 with nearly half the install base (probably less given RROD and E74) has moved software at an amazing rate. Again this coming from a PS3 owner and fan but I am not blinded by my "brand loyalty," I enjoy games on all 3 systems but it so happens that I have been enjoying them more on my system of choice. And yes my 80gb MGS4 bundle seems to be backwards compatible with every ps1 and ps2 game i've put in so far, and trust me I do have ALOT of games. 

 

 

 

Oh yea, here are a few sources

 

http://www.mariowiki.com/Games

http://www.themushroomkingdom.net/mario_history.shtml, http://www.gamecubicle.com/features-mario-units_sold_sales.htm, http://www.gamespot.com/search.html?qs=paper+mario

Might wanna reply to my post too, and not just ignore it.

My apologies it took me so long to respond majin, between Triple Triad and trying to respond to that other guy, I missed your post. You are partially right about Zelda but....I'll let you be the judge of that here: http://www.zeldawiki.org/Category:Games. I wouldn't go as far as saying milked like mario or final fantasy VII, but as I said, you be the judge of that.

I wouldn't really consider it to be milked since we generally have to wait our fair share of time for a new main game in the series, and it's not like spinoffs are coming out every other month. I can see why it took you so long to reply, though, Triple Triad really is addicting

FUCK! I lost my Diablos card ...AGAIN, and trying to get it back I just lost my Ifrit Card. Sigh, now another half hour worth to get them back. But back on topic, yes, I would partially consider the Zelda franchise "milked" but not to the full definition. I do find it funny that people can't accept how much the Mario franchise has gotten milked since the beginning. And to that other guy, NO that silly example you gave about Kratos being in Soul Calibur. Notice I didn't mention at all SSBB, because I don't consider it as part of the Mario franchise to the full definition as it's a crossover of many different games including MGS, Metroid, Zelda, etc. Anyways, back to getting my cards.

Seems to me you're trying to spin everything because you don't like something, and think is normal to dislike something.

Mario is featured in different franchises, which is a normal thing for a mascot, almost like a logo. Cartoonists used to have one prominent character they used in all cartoons, Miyamoto was inspired by this and created Mario for this very purpose. But all along they've been very careful about the quality of the games Mario is on.

Milking is I believe when you take a game franchise and make many versions of it in a short span, or put your character on many subpar games to give them a boost at the expense of your character's reputation(in case of branding). When branding and game is mutually beneficial(the game being good benefits brand reputation, brand may benefit the game) and the products are different, they're not mutually exclusive. The games Mario has been in and were different franchises are different consumer product segments.