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CGI-Quality said:
Slimebeast said:
CGI-Quality said:
Slimebeast said:
CGI-Quality said:
gansito said:
CGI-Quality said:
gansito said:
i see what you did there, problem is sony exclusives have a hard time selling, but i will agree, HR will outsell Epic Mickey

They do? Which ones?

Ratchet, Killzone, Uncharted, Lair, Heavenly Sword.

- Ratchet sales are fine. In fact, how is it selling bad when it's selling faster than Tools of Destruction?

- Killzone 2 is sitting over 2million right now. How is it having a hard ime selling?

- Lair - lol. Funny - how did Too Human sell? Riiiiiight......games that are considered "sub-par" don't always sell.

- Heavenly Sword is at 1.5mill. Again, how are those sales bad?

What about Uncharted 2, Resistance 1 & 2, LBP? I see you mention some games, but not others. Every console has it's fairshare of lower sellers. And to know if a game is selling "bad" or not, you'd have to provide proof of the expectations. Since you haven't, my work is complete here.

The PS3 is almost infamous for not being able to sell tons of copies of their great exclusives. So far most games sold deccently thanks to bundles (Motorstorm, Uncharted, Hevnly Sword, Resistanc)

Killzone2 (2 million) has great legs but it's still pretty small compared to Gears of War (5-6 mill).

Lil Big People is rufly 2,5 mil, but one could expect more from a game with +95% Meta.

Same with Unharted 2. 96% meta should be a +5 million seller normally. It would if it was on X360.

"Decently"? Ok, in comparison to many of the 360's exclusives, not the big ones either, the PS3 hasn't done too bad. Also, saying that "most games sold due to bundles" is as biased as it is inaccurate, which is evident as you didn't even name "many".

Uncharted 2 WAS NOT heavily bundled. Has no compariosn on the 360.

Killzone 2 WAS NOT heavily bundled. Why is Killzone 2 being compared with Gears in the first place? Gears was the first breakout hit on the 360, a systme also generally known for a heavy shooter base. Killzone 2 was late to the game, and wasn't EVER expected to do 6mill, at least not from anyone rational. It'sll settle at 3-3.5mill or so.

LBP WAS NOT heavily bundled. Has no comparison on the 360.

So, tell me, besides Gears and Halo, what 360 exclusives have done "gangbusters"?

I mentioned the bundled ones specifically - Motorstorm, H Sword, Unch 1, Resistance.

I never claimed KZ2 or UC2 was bundled, but I made arguemnts of why them should have still sold better.


Gears 1&2, Halo 3, Halo 3 ODST, Fable II, Left4Dead, Mass Effect have sold gangbusters and better than expected, and without practically any bundles.

Actually, you never explained why they should have sold better, you said they didn't sell as expected, and then compared them to 360 games (Killzone 2 for example). That's NOT explaining why they should have sold better.

Also, tell me something, I agree with Killzone 2, it should have sold a bit better (though it still did fine), but what's wrong with Uncharted 2's numbers? If anything, the developer expected only 2.5mill, most of which is already knocked out and the game hasn't even been out 2 months yet. The game is staring 2mill in the face right now. If the developers expectations have been supassed, how is it "not performing well"?

 

I hinted at the obvious, that great games usually should sell a lot. So high review scores are my explanation.

LBP 95%, Uncharted 90%, KZ2 90%

And Uncharted 2. Well, the first made the franchise known, the PS3 install base had grown big to the release of the sequel and the game itself got amazing reviews, 96% Meta. Yet it didnt hit 1 mill first week (while for example Fable 3 did, with a much lower Meta 88%).

U urself (among many others) perdicted 4,5 million lifetime for KZ2:

CGI-Quality said:
I'll say 1st week: 800,000 - 1mill, 4.5 mill LTD.

 

CGI-Quality said:
Mine still stands: 700,000 first week, 4.5-5mill LTD. This might be playing it safe for week 1, it might do plenty more.

 

CGI-Quality said:
700,000-850,000 - first week
4.5-5 mill LTD
That's being cautious, it might do more first week, who knows!