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| Kwaad said: I would just like to point out. Nintendo appears to have a 'higher' attach ratio. But when you dont count The 'Wii' Titles, of Sports, and Play. The picture gets a little bit uglier. I would also like to point out, that nintendo just released the most anticipated game for the console, since release, AND planned for the next 2 years. What do I mean by that? This mario game was the game everyone was waiting for when they first got their Wii. This is the game that wont be beat for years. This is the most anticipated game for the console in the near future. Mario is to Nintendo as Halo is to Microsoft.
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SSBB, Mario Kart Wii, Wii Fit, etc..??? You seem to have forgotten some of the other extremely highly anticipated titles. More than that you spend a large amount of time focusing on first year software sales of the Wii in comparison to second year software sales of the 360. People love to make this comparison because it is about the only way to put the Wii in a bad light right now. If this comparison holds up as the Wii moves into the middle of its second year then you have a valid comparison, but right now it is just stretching for it. |
SSBB < Mario
Mario Kart Wii < Zelda
Wii Fit = WTF no-oneknows. My point isnt how nintendo sucks, and the games are bad. Find one place in that thread I said nintendo sucks. I am just saying, people are buying consoles, and no games. I have been saying that for the last year. It's still the same way. It's just grandma, buys the Wii becuase everyone says it's so much fun. And then she never buys a game. |
Funny how you're always wrong Kwaad |
Nice way to manuplate it. Next time pick a worse mario to compare it to. Mario Sunshine is the worst mario ever, and sold the same way. How many did Mario64, sell? |
If SSB < Mario and Mario Kart < Zelda it shouldn't be possible for Mario to be outsold by Smash Bros or for Zelda to be outsold by Mario Kart .... The simple fact is that in recent history these have been Nintendo's 2 biggest sellers, it really doesn't matter how one performed that was released over 10 years ago. |
Overall as we see, Mario 64, was the best seller of the 64 years, by a decent margin. Even the best game of ALL TIME, was the 3rd best seller in this list. My point here, is Mario, is the biggest contendor. Gamerace - Sony/Microsoft will win this generation AGIAN, if NIntendo dont get games. Truely, the money comes from game sales, NOT console sales. Sony makes 5$ for every game sold (roughly) same with microsoft. Here is my point. When Nintendo bombs down to 0 games sales, people will stop buying the consoles, when people stop buying games and consoles agian, nintendo stops making money. While sony, and microsoft who loose money on their consoles initally, make it all back 20fold. I hate to say it, but blue ocean already looks like a failure to me. Nintendo is winning, they are makeing ALOT of money. But no-one else can touch the Wii, and make good money. Wii 3rd party has been going down hill, and my point is, Wii 1st party, isnt growing NEAR as fast as I would have thought it would have. |
You seem to have a very selective view of reality. First off, the Wii comes with a game. Wii Sports and soon Wii Fit is all the incentive a lot of people will ever need to get a Wii. This trend will only continue as the Wii eventually drops in price. Nintendo makes a profit right there. ANY game sales after that are gravy and Wii is selling games, a LOT of games. Second, Wii games are much cheaper to produce and are profitable at much lower sales margins. Look at Brain Academy - how much did that cost to make? 1m? How much has it sold? .91m and counting. At $50 a pop, some rough and dirty number crunching gives about $3m profit so far. That's one of there less impressive games. And when it drops to a more reasonable price it's sells will only increase.
As for no one being able to sell games on Wii, let's look at the facts:
| Rayman Raving Rabbids |  | Ubisoft | 3,164 | 7.63 | 1.12m |
| 9 | | Red Steel | | Ubisoft | 2,552 | 6.73 | 1.03m |
| 10 | | Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition | | Capcom | 29,035 | 8.31 | 1.02m |
| 11 | | Mario Strikers Charged | | Nintendo | 8,848 | 8.17 | 0.97m |
| 12 | | Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree | | Nintendo | 2,918 | 7.38 | 0.91m |
| 13 | | Pokemon Battle Revolution | | Nintendo | 3,105 | 7.55 | 0.77m |
| 14 | | Metroid Prime 3: Corruption | | Nintendo | 25,131 | 8.36 | 0.76m |
| 15 | | Sonic and the Secret Rings | | Sega | 3,163 | 7.74 | 0.75m |
| 16 | | Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07 | | EA | 1,667 | 7.02 | 0.73m |
| 17 | | Excite Truck | | Nintendo | 1,766 | 7.66 | 0.55m |
| 18 | | Cooking Mama: Cook Off | | Taito | 1,113 | 6.71 | 0.52m |
| 19 | | Trauma Center: Second Opinion | | Atlus | 833 | 7.24 | 0.51m |
| 20 | | Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors | | Square Enix | 6,953 | 7.69 | 0.49m |
| 21 | | Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock | | RedOctane | 1,415 | 8.35 | 0.44m |
Hmm... I was trying to get rid of the Nintendo games but no luck. But three 3rd party 1m+ games, GH3 will be there very shortly, and Trauma Centre, Tiger Woods, Cooking Mama and DQS are all making a ton of profit with .5m sales and counting. Now yes, compared to 360 this is anemic, but 360 has been out for 2 years, not one and you might remember everyone complained about 360's lack of games and sales in the 1st year.
Then there's Sony. Sony is bleeding not only from console sales but also from game sales too. Due to the high development cost, it is estimated by analysts they need close to 1m in sales to break even. That means Sony is lossing money on almost every game they have released thus far. So has every 3rd party exclusive.
I think Nintendo is very happy with where they are right now. Profitable. Very very profitable now and for the forseeable future.
