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GooseGaws said:
@stof:

I'm not talking about being violent, I'm talking about having mature themes such as tragedy, pathos, the realism of war, etc., as well as having an atmosphere and design that reflects those themes.

As for Perfect Dark and Conker's Bad Fur Day, both were actually published by Rare and not by Nintendo, though they were distributed by Nintendo. No M-rated Rare game was Nintendo-published. The point is moot in terms of this thread though, as Rare was not an in-house team; also, Conker's could hardly be called a "mature" game in anything but its scatology.

I haven't yet played very far into Twilight Princess so I can't comment there, but it did seem to have a certain darkness of atmosphere. I hope to get back to it someday...
twilight princess has a dark atmosphere especially at the (spoiler if you continue to read)dark world where you fight zant