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trestres said:
@Khuutra: Religious not in the sense of Religion, in the sense that you are set on what you believe and it's unchangeable.

You are talking in a condescending way to me. Your tone and the subtle jabs aren't appreciated just because I got a differing opinion.

"Put your pride where your mouth is", for example, that was unnecessary. Also telling me I retreted continuosly from the arguement is a lie, since I've addressed each and every single one of your posts directed at me and never changed the subject. Trying to put a bet on top of the real arguement to divert attention, that's really retreating.

You have not actually addressed any of the arguments, you throw up two or three examples and retreat from explanations about how they are different from Pokemon. You want a full explanation? The fullest, what it really  comes down to? Fine.

Pokemon is intrinsically handheld as a series, at least when addressing the main series games, becuase the entire collection and battling mechanic is built around local multiplayer. The whole point of the games is to get together with your friends in the cafeteria, or the schoolyard, or your living room, and trade Pokemon or battle it out in those environs. You and your friends supplement each other's collections until you have caught 'em all, or battled 'em all, but hte point is that you get together with friends to play. Putting it on consoles does more than jsut dilute that experience, it literally destroys the original intent: Pokemon is not a game about sitting alone in one room and playing with people over the internet. That's a perversion of the original intent and we damn sure aren't going to see it this gen.

Now I'm going to get more specific, just because, well, you've convinced me.

Also telling me I retreted continuosly from the arguement is a lie,
I see! Then I guess these:
It will happen some day, and I bet this gen.
It will not be as hard as you set it out to be.
No I won't take that bet because I know it won't probably happen even if I believe it will.
are all saying the same thing, right? It's not like you started out explicitly saying that this would definitely happen, that you bet (albeit with no on) that it owuld happen, but when someone comes forward to attach your name to the argument you back off and reveal the fact that oops, you'r not actually so confident in the firist place.

You want justification for why it's not going to happen? Money is secondary only to the original intent of the series, and not by as wide a marging as you would like to think. The DS Pokemon games tend to make as much money as they do because they encourage kids to buy more copies so they can play with their friends, and they tie up far fewer resources for far shorter increments of time than a comparable game on the consoles would take. Could they make another team for it? Sure, but why would they when they can capitalize their return on investment by focusing on the handheld titles? This logic, mind, does not hold up for many of Nitnndo's other franchises because they are not intrinsically handheld titles and do not necessarily appeal to the same demographics: not everyone who bought Phantom Hourglass bought Twilight Princess, and vice versa. This hold for Super Mario Galaxy and New Super Mario Bros., and it holds for NSMBW and NSMBDS. Animal Crossing dos much th same, though it's different in that it was supposed to be a lynchpin of an entire holiday!

It's not going to happen. You originally said it would. Now you agree that it won't. You have abandoned your original stated position, and all arguments extending from that point are - you guessed it - void.