vlad321 said:
ironman said:
vlad321 said:
And I have the right to share what I buy with anyone I want. Anyone who says otherwise ( like you) is immoral.
P.S. Sharing = Piracy
NO, Piracy = Piracy, you can lend your right to play the game to somebody, but at some point in time, that right to play is returned to you. This is not the case with pirating. With lending/used game market One game disc = one right to play. With pirating one game disc = many rights to play
@ironman
Same thing with pirates, fewer people would be gaming if not for piracy, which is BAD for the entirer industry, so I guess piracy is good too.
Yes, but even fewer new games are sold because of pirating. It is quite the opposite with the used game market.
Give up, you can't win this. Any excuse you give for used sales I can use with piracy.
lol, what? I have shot down every one of your sorry excuses for an argument about used games. You just keep digging yourself holes when you open your mouth...and I push you in and pile on the dirt. Seriously, I already have won this. You are just in a state of denial.
So, I'm getting tired of asking this, What Dev do you work for. I will not stop asking till I get an honest answer.
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I'll demonstrate:
Your fail? Ok!
"People buy more games because they have more money when they get used games" = "Peaople have ore money when they pirate games to buy games"
And I retorted with "Well, no actually, most people who primerily purchase used games will, in most cases, purchase a new one once in a while, and they are freeing up capital that will eventually be used by other people to purchase new releases. There is a differance between pirates and people who purchase used games...and that is money, One is more willing to spend it, the other one is more willing to keep it"
Of course this post was earlier before I adopted the rights argument (see below) so technically, money is not the only differance.
"I wanna play the game but don't wanna play full price and the developer won't see my money and I won't have enough to buy other new games" (a.k.a entitelment) = "I don't have enough money but I wanna play the game anyway, I will save money for better games and pirate this one, developer won't see anything" (a.k.a entitlement) (why the fuck do you feel like you have to play the game at all without paying for it? In both cases you are cheating the developer out of money.)
What? I want whatever you are smoking? You fail on so many levels, try taking what I say in context. I never said those exact words, and when I said anything close to that, it was paired with equally important wording which you conveniantly missed. Secondly, thank you for pointing out that piracy would skyrocket without the used market. I actually didn't think about that before your post. If I can't afford a game, and I can't sell used games, I WILL pirate said game.
People who buy used games are PAYING for the right that the origional owner of the game gave up, the right to play the game. Pirates don't pay anything, for the right to play, which has NOT been given up by the origional owner of the game.
Am I missing any other sorry arguments for me that I haven't summed up nicely?
XD, you havn't summed up anything I havn't DESTROYED with a good argument.
@Zen
My theory is that game stores are becoming useless. Steam has shown that an independent, private studio can distribute its own games. I'm sure Valve has enough money to even open uup its own retail stores ala MS and Apple by now. General retailers and other such only leech money from developers, and while they are needed for the time being they will become obsolete in the future, hopefully sooner rather than later. Also if that retailer industry goes to hell then developers will hurry up with finding alternate ways of getting their games to people. I would gladly support anything that gets rid of the middleman. When that happens piracy and used games will become equally damaging even on a wide scale. As it stands on the individual scale they are both equally bad. Hell even he arguments for/agaisnt are the same, see above.
Yes, game stores are useless, that is why their business is booming...XD get a clue dude. Also, used game are GOOD for the gaming industry, how many times must we go over this? You get an F for not reading.
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