Which is moraly (not legaly) worse? Secondhand _ Pirating _ Renting_Lending

[vlad321]

ironman said:

vlad321 said:

 

And I have the right to share what I buy with anyone I want. Anyone who says otherwise ( like you) is immoral.

P.S. Sharing = Piracy

NO, Piracy = Piracy, you can lend your right to play the game to somebody, but at some point in time, that right to play is returned to you. This is not the case with pirating. With lending/used game market One game disc = one right to play. With pirating one game disc = many rights to play

@ironman

Same thing with pirates, fewer people would be gaming if not for piracy, which is BAD for the entirer industry, so I guess piracy is good too.

Yes, but even fewer new games are sold because of pirating. It is quite the opposite with the used game market.

Give up, you can't win this. Any excuse you give for used sales I can use with piracy.

lol, what? I have shot down every one of your sorry excuses for an argument about used games. You just keep digging yourself holes when you open your mouth...and I push you in and pile on the dirt. Seriously, I already have won this. You are just in a state of denial.

So, I'm getting tired of asking this, What Dev do you work for. I will not stop asking till I get an honest answer.

 

I'll demonstrate:

"People buy more games because they have more money when they get used games" = "Peaople have ore money when they pirate games to buy games"

"I wanna play the game but don't wanna play full price and the developer won't see my money and I won't have enough to buy other new games" (a.k.a entitelment) = "I don't have enough money but I wanna play the game anyway, I will save money for better games and pirate this one, developer won't see anything" (a.k.a entitlement) (why the fuck do you feel like you have to play the game at all without paying for it? In both cases you are cheating the developer out of money.)

Am I missing any other sorry arguments for me that I haven't summed up nicely?

@Zen

My theory is that game stores are becoming useless. Steam has shown that an independent, private studio can distribute its own games. I'm sure Valve has enough money to even open uup its own retail stores ala MS and Apple by now. General retailers and other such only leech money from developers, and while they are needed for the time being they will become obsolete in the future, hopefully sooner rather than later. Also if that retailer industry goes to hell then developers will hurry up with finding alternate ways of getting their games to people. I would gladly support anything that gets rid of the middleman.  When that happens piracy and used games will become equally damaging even on a wide scale. As it stands on the individual scale they are both equally bad. Hell even he arguments for/agaisnt are the same, see above.