Which is moraly (not legaly) worse? Secondhand _ Pirating _ Renting_Lending

[vlad321]

1337 Gamer said:

vlad321 said:

1337 Gamer said:
@vlad321

Im glad your such a zealot at buying new games im sure all the developers love you

As for second hand what exactly is immoral about it? The person who originally bought it has every right to do whatever he wants with it. Selling it to someone else is one of those rights.

By your definition then buying a used car is immoral too because the Manufacturer doesnt see money from it. is that whay your trying to say?

"Just a quick math to show that second hand is morally wworse than pirating:

Pirating:
1 guy pay $50 and then a bunch of other get it for free. Developers/publishers see $50 only.

Second Hand:
1 guy pays $50 and then sells it along. Developer/publisher gets only $50 while each person who owns the game MAKES money off of their idea.

End result:

Second hand people are more greedy and immoral than pirates."

Quoted from above.

As for your example with the car it is uttely false. A car is a physical thing that requires materials to make and whatnot. When you buys the car you buy the materials. All you do with video games is buy an idea. It is a faulty analogy.

I take it you know nothing about cars. Cars require not only materials to construct but require extensive amount of Ideas. Far more than a video game. you could go out and buy all the materials needed to make a car for far less than the actual car would cost you but whats the point of that. Materials do not make the car it is the ideas and creative genius behind it that you really pay for. The cost of materials is far below the actual cost of the car much like the cost of the media the game is printed on is far less than $50.

 

In the end my argument still stands. By your logic if i sell my used car i am immoral because i am "MAKING" money off of the car manufacturers idea. Which everyone here (with possibly the exception of you) know that this is a ridiculous statement.

No it doesn't. You know about mass production? That makes it cheap. If you or I wanted to build a car from scratch with buying all the iron and the metal molding tools etc. it would actually costs us close to what a normal car would. It's cheaper for companis because of mass production and past the initial investment they can just churn out cars VERY cheaply. That is AFTER the initial cost of factories and equipment. Do you or I have that equipment? No, so it will cost us a shitton to make our own cars, hence the cost. When you buy the caar you buy the materials that you don't have to pay for.

You are comparing physical to abstract items, faulty analogy. Can I pirate a car? Can I just take 5 mins and make a perfect copy? No? Even faultier analogy.

When it comes down to it, morally used game market is far more effed up than the pirate scene.