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Alterego-X said:
aragod said:

And that's a fact, of this whole console generation Wii has the largest userbase share of nongamers / first-time console owners. If you take a look at the sales of casual shovelware crap and "hardcore" games, the shovelware rock it. 

There is a huge problem with your argument. 

If I look at the list of best selling games, I see games. That's a fact. 

  1. Wii Sports
  2. Wii Play
  3. Wii Fit 
  4. Mario Kart Wii
  5. Super Smash Bros. Brawl
  6. Super Mario Galaxy
  7. Mario and Sonic at the Olimpics
  8. Mario Party 8
  9. Twilight Princess
  10. Wii Sports Resort

You also suggested, that all or many of these games are "casual shovelware crap". 

This is not a fact. You can't prove that even one of these games are either "casual", or "shovelware", let alone "crap".

Where did I stated that in the top 10 of Wii Bestsellers, there are casual sw crap games?

Now that you've posted that top10 here, I might have to revise my previous statement in the line above! Yes there are crappy casual shovelware games, and they were produced by allmighty Nintendo itself. Seriously, anyone saying that Wii Play isn't the recently stated is delusional. And we can polemise about some others (Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Mario and Sonic, Mario Party, Wii Sports Resort) - these games are definately casual by definition (It's arguable if some of them are even games in the true meaning).

But seriously, when I said that on the Wii there is a majority of crappy games, I ment that they are targeted at the new casual audience. There might be quality titles which doesn't appeal to everyone, like Wii Music, but my main concern is that games like Game Party and Carnival Games (which are but utter crap with meta ratings around 20-50%) can sell OVER 3 and a HALF MILION copies. And that dear friend, won't happen on any other home console.

 



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