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ironman said:
MAFKKA said:

It can't flop, since it did what was expected by the producers of said product.

And to compare it with a 360 slim is irrelavant, since the expectations would be different.

Its like saying that Santa Claus floped, because at 3 years old i expected him to be real, forever. He did what he was ment to do, keep me in line and happy up until i was big enough to think for my own.

See, this right here is exactly what I was talking about. MAFKKA is dead wrong, he is basically saying that that if a producer expects their product to sell very badly, then when the product does, it is not a flop because the producer expected it to sell horribly.

Well theres a difference when being first on the market. You cant draw a general conclusion of it.

If a product that allows to to call a friend and text is released and sells 100k, and another company releases the same product and it sells 1k, its would be considered a flop.

But if one company released a car that uses electricity only. In a market where any other product within the same segment uses Gas, the sales numbers and sucess is messasured by company expectations and capital invested.