When will pc graphics start to really outpace console (this gen) graphics?

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youarebadatgames said:

 

Yes, PC gaming has the best graphics and it has the most hardcore players. The best game players are on the PC, put any console player in a 1v1 in Quake or Starcraft -- games that require skill far beyond what console gamers can muster -- and you will see where the elite players are. Don't get me wrong, the guys in MLG are great on the consoles, but it just doesn't compare to the players in the competitive Starcraft, CS, quake and even WOW/MMORPG scene.

Consoles just make it accessible to everyone, which isn't a bad thing, but no way they are more elite/hardcore than some of the serious teams and players on the PC side who have being playing for years.

That's ignorant and wrong imo.

Here's something for you to ponder:

The platform a player chooses has nothing to do with their potential skill level.

Controls have nothing to do with their potential skill level.

You can take an accomplished PC FPS champion, and put him up against a reasonably good Halo 3 player, hand them both 360 controllers, who would win?

From speed and stealth runs in MGS4, to SMB mods and speed runthroughs, you will always have very skilled gamers across all platforms.

Ever hear of fighting games? jTourneys? You think that PC FPS only gamers are more hardcore about those? Do you think fighing games require less skill, and are less hardcore than RTS games? Do you think that the skill required to reach the top level in Virtua Fighter is significantly less than the "skill" required to master World of Warcrafts battle system? Keep in mind, you can find my World of Warcraft PVP videos on Warcraft movies as we speak, if you think you're gonna bullshit me. Do you think their skill levels could match mine at Tekken without training on an arcade stick?

It's just silly. Training is required to master anything, and the consoles have games as deep or deeper than games found on the PC. Games that take years to master. Games that are impossible to master.

Now, where you're confused, I think, is that you assumed certain genres, which require vast amounts of invested time, are far more populated on PC. I agree. The MMO crowd(which is also the RTS) crowd, sometimes puts a lot of time and effort into their gaming.

However, for you to imply that platform choice determines gaming prowess, is complete and utter ignorance at a level rarely seen on this forum, and it is also completely and utterly bias, and insulting to me personally. Elitism like that is what causes those PC fan stereotypes.

In fact, let me define stereotype.

Stereotype: logical oversimplification in which all the members of a class or set are considered to be definable by an easily distinguishable.

An oversimplification or generalization, based upon laziness or ignorance.

Do you want to continue to generalize an entire group of gamers and marginalize their importance to gaming, or do you want to actually stand behind your platform with a cohesive argument, because right now, this thread needs some hardcore PC gamers, because the ones you've got haven't stood up to well against this casual console n00b.

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I just laughed and laughed.