UK Politics

[Kantor]

SciFiBoy said:

Kantor said:

SciFiBoy said:

kowenicki said:
@scifiboys

and the "better" liberal policies are?

here's a few you can start with:

1) pull out of the war
2) abolish tuition fees
3) proportional representation
4) proggressive taxation
5) more funding for the NHS/Education system
6) abolish faith schools
7) legalise less dangerous drugs
8) close tax loopholes
9) better public transport (trains, buses, etc)
10) abolish the monarchy
11) make the lords elected (if not fully, then atleast like 75%)
12) proper action on climate change (more renewable energy, no nuclear either, its not safe or viable from what ive read, we probably dont need nuclear weapons either, so they can go too)

1) This isn't possible. Terrorism is not over, Afghanistan has not recovered, if we pulled out, the training camps would re-open, and nothing would be achieved. wow, fail, if you read the thread, I listed at least 5 good reasons why the war is stupid

2) Some schools need to charge fees. If you are willing to pay the fees, send your child there. If not, send him or her to a state/grammar school. There's no need to lump school fees onto taxes. im talking about Universities here, schools already work like that...Uni's though, there is NO free to access option

3) NO. This may be fair, but it's how Weimar crumbled and how the Nazi Party came to power. With a party like the BNP, we don't want to be anywhere near proportional representation. the BNP have nowhere near the support of the Nazis, utter drivel and fearmongering, grow up please

4) To a certain extent, yes. Not to Labour levels. clarify?

5) That would be nice.

6) What do you mean? Convents? Let them stay. why? do we have Labour and Tory schools? nope, so why pander to religous groups if not to all other special interest groups

7) This achieves nothing. Even the least dangerous of drugs can be harmful. harmful like Alcohol or Tobbaco you mean?

8) If there are any, sure.

9) Agreed. Also, make it cheaper.

10) There's no point. The monarchs don't rule us, they are figureheads. They've been in England for millenia. You can't just say "Hey, Queenie, you're out. Your palace will be demolished in a week". as ive said, turn there palace's and shit into museums for all i care, no point in them, or wasting money on there muppetry

11) Absolutely.

12) Nuclear is safe, and it's important to keep nuclear power. You just have to properly dispose of the waste. okay, im still a little hestitant but after reading what people have said, im more open to nuclear now

So, would that be the Green Party? I would not like to see what they would turn the country into. actually the Green party are left of some of these issues even, its why id prefer a more moderate left wing party, sadly, there is none

 

1) I accept that there is a rift in opinions over Afghanistan. Agree to disagree.

2) I see. Then, don't completely abolish university fees. Simply have "state universities" like "state schools". America already has a similar system in place, though it isn't free, just subsidised (though all university in the UK is subsidised for residents).

3) The Nazis weren't always popular. I don't want to see the BNP EVER reach NEAR the levels of popularity that the Nazi party did. Proportional Representation allows more of the BNP (and other extremist parties) to get their voices heard and get more support. Even if they don't get the PM position, they shouldn't be in the government at all, and if they are, not in large quantities.

4) Enough to be fair, not enough to be socialist.

5) Yay, we agree

6) I am an atheist, but if somebody wants to send their child to a Christian school, let them. As long as they are not taught creationism instead of evolution, or any of that. A prayer in the morning is fine.

7) More harmful than alcohol and tobacco. I would personally ban tobacco, but that would spark an outcry.

10) I can see your point, but it would just be a massive overhaul of the country. It would be a revolution. This world is complicated enough without a revolution. Besides, it's constitutional monarchy. The Queen has no power. She is a symbol, and a figurehead. Give her less money, sure, but let the family stay in their palace, it's the country's heritage.

12) Good.

The Green Party are left of that? You can't get much further left than that. I remember you being a vehement supporter of the Lib Dems a while ago, what's wrong with them? Aside from the fact they're not going to change anything and are a bunch of wimps, of course.