Malstrom: Hardcore are the casuals!

[KungKras]

S.T.A.G.E. said:

KungKras said:

Fair enough, there are people that have gaming as a hobby. But that has nothing to do with being "hardcore". If you meant hobbyist, then why didn't you say hobbyist earlier?

I didn't use the term 'hobbyist' because thats not gaming lingo. As gamers we use certain words to set apart novices (or casuals) from intermediates and advanced gamers. Hobbyist is the technical term that defines a 'hardcore gamer' or 'the hardcore'. They have done everything but gone professional. Most of us here are gaming hobbyists, including me.

I still don't think harcore is the correct term to call someone who plays games that are made simple for the masses (in this case the PC style games on consoles). It's just wrong.

You could say all kinds of stuff like traditional gamers, or core gamers (since core is the traditional market) but hardcore is supposed to mean the elite. And normal console players just doesn't seem very elite to me.

The way hardcore is used today to differentiate gamers from gamers is just as ridiculous as retro gamers claming that people that play new systems are too "casual" to play the old "hardcore" systems.

Anyway, if your description of harcore is people that have done everything but gone professional, such as people who spend lots and lots of time playing games, then you should also agree that it's ridiculous how the word "hardcore" is being used these days. Anyway, what is your definition of a hardcore gamer? Describe the typical "hardcore" gamer and the typical "hardcore" games, that is if you think games can be hardcore.