Slimebeast said:
Munkeh111 said:
Slimebeast said:
Kantor said:
Slimebeast said:
Munkeh111 said:
Well PS2 is definitely profitable from a hardware side, and now apparently the PS3 makes more profit that the PS2 sells for, and I think the PSP makes money
On a software side, SCE are definitely profitable, most of their games sell in excess of 1m copies |
How can everything be profitable when overall Sony Entertainment has been posting losses for three years in a row?
You're just making things up.
The 1st party software is not profitable. Sony games have huge budgets and never sell well since the PSP/PS3 era. Also, when MS is selling away a lot of their first party you can suspect that Sony doesnt make profit on their 1st party either (but it still might be worth it overall, because 1st party games sell consoles, which in turn moves third party software). The little money Sony Entertainment makes comes from the $10 license fees from third party.
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SCE WWS has been profitable for a long time. The PS3, however, is still selling at a loss. Can you name any Sony games released recently which could feasibly have lost money?
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All of them except MGS4 (and that is maybe not even published by Sony but Konami?).
Well, LBP i'd say indeed also made a profit.
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Like Uncharted, which sold 2.5m on a $20m budget. Or Insomniac who manage to release a game which sell about 1.5m copies every year, with 150 people.
If SCE was losing money, do you really think that there would not have been any job cuts? Banjo did not sell enough, so Rare has had job cuts. SCE make Sony money, so they are not going to drop support of it
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Im confused. Isnt it a well established fact that SCE has been losing 100's of millions of Dollars during the last three years?
Uncharted probably made a small profit, and yes, Insomniac are probably also profitabel. But u have to weight those two against all the other first party titles that are losin money. What abot Motorstorms? And so far KZ2 lost money. Hevenly Sword, Lair lost money.
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Sigh.
SCE have made a loss for the past few years because of, and only because of, PS3 hardware. It was selling at more than a $200 loss at launch.
Uncharted would have made a huge profit. Look at the sales.
MotorStorm 1 definitely made money. It was not an expensive game, and it crossed 3 million units sold.
MotorStorm 2 didn't sell very well, but it sold well enough- again, how much could it have cost? That might have made a slight loss, but enough to offset Naughty Dog, Insomniac, MotorStorm 1...?
Heavenly Sword sold 1.3 million units. It wasn't a long game, and it looked pretty good, but not THAT good. Definitely profitable.
Lair probably lost money, but I doubt they spent much money on it, looking at the quality of the final product.
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