Super Mario Galaxy - 720p through Wii emulator.

[MaxwellGT2000]

WereKitten said:

MaxwellGT2000 said:

Heh I'm not holding my breath especially since emulators for even older systems still have issues.

And when you put that 720p mario you posted 8 feet away from you and on a TV screen you're not going to see much difference. 

I'm speaking from a practical standpoint, you're not seeing more detail just an image thats a bit more clear that will be less clear if you take it off a computer monitor that is right in your face and put it across the room while you're actually playing the game. 

Heh do this, put the image you posted on your PC screen, walk back 8 feet and tell me how big of a difference it really makes for you, then do the same and watch that video in motion, it practically looks the same except the emulated version has many graphical issues especially with the shaders that overall brings down the quality of the visuals.

Your "walk back 8 feet" thought experiment is faulty, because PC screens have higher DPI than TVs i.e. smaller pixels.

I'll save you the trigonometry but the angular size of a pixel on my Macbook (13",1280x800, watched from ~55 cm) is about the same as that of a 720p image watched on my 42" plasma from my couch at ~200 cms of distance (1.40 vs 1.28 minutes of arc).

The same math says that in these conditions a person with good eyesight would keep distinguishing the pixels (1 minute of arc) up to about 900 pixels along the vertical. Factor in the AA (and latency on LCDs) and 720p can be enough, but 480p isn't for me and many other people.

Anyway, I'm glad you are now speaking of subjective impressions, as I never contested the fact that for some people and in some conditions the (objective) improvements could be negligible.

Huh I never knew I wasn't speaking for myself and others like me, I never speak in absolutes, the only things I said were definitive was the fact that the game looks jacked up on the emulator and that's undeniable.

I can run the game on my Wii on my 15 inch 480p TV and it looks much better then that HD video of the game in motion on the emulator.  If I run it on my friends 1080p LCD TV like I described, it looks MUCH better then that HD video does, the "jaggies" that are apparent on the 1080p TV are also apparent in the 720p images in the OP. I could go on about my big screen in the living room but it's not going to change much.

My message this whole time has been that you won't get much better visuals, clearer picture sure, but visually it doesn't change things, its not like you're going to spot some little detail you never saw in the 480p gameplay. Nor does a screen shot in 720p make the game look any more AMAZING then it does in 480p, that is what I have some issues with because if the users think it looks amazing in 720p with jacked up graphics then why didn't they say as much when 480p screens and weren't jacked up were shown off?

I'm just old school, practical is my middle name, and for the average user they're not going to gain much from the game playing in 720p, in motion no one but technophiles care if they see a slightly pixelated line goes across their screen, unless you're going to make love to screen shots it's not going to improve your visual enjoyment of the game.