Why the PS3 will not last long, let alone 10 years.

[BMaker11]

SaviorX said:

BMaker11 said:

SaviorX said:
Smashchu, I'm sorry that these Sony guys (with the exception of the honorable Squilliam) jumped on you like a pack of hyenas.

At least you have the fact that I believed you to give you comfort.

I hear the same excuses coming from you guys all the time. Great games COMING. Where are they now? Stop preaching about how Sony's software will miraculously turn hardware sales around. 70m Lifetime? Please. You act like MS will just be twiddling its thumbs while Sony tries to recuperate from their financial beating.

Then, the price cut. 300 or 200, what makes you think 4 years after the gen starts, a price cut will just boost sales to near Wii levels? A price cut usually does boost HW, but this is 2010 we are taking about where this will take place. Consumer interest may be ninexistent at that point. Did a price drop help the Gamecube?

And it is funny that you guys somehowcooked up a theory that the Wii will somehow lose 3rd party support? In this "economy" that has "put a knife in third years sales" (as Squilliam put it") how in the world would devs just start making games for the most taxing and expensive console on the market?

Smashchu said hardware is supported by software, and ho couldn't be any more right in this case. What game does Sony have that all consumers may want to play, not Kojima aficionados or former PS2 owners?
They don't have a game over 5m yet, and until Gran Turismo comes out, they may not ever. Killzone 2 will take several more months to touch 2m, not nearly enough to help Sony at all. People complain about the Wii library, but that thing sells everything.

PS3 will be dead in the water before 10 years are up.

Paragraph 1: People say that because the great games are ALWAYS coming! It started in 2006, and consistantly great games have come out. It'll be no different in 2010, when newer games get released after the games we're waiting on now have already came out. And PS while we're waiting for games to "come", we'll still be playing KZ2, MGS4, LBP, etc to hold us over

Paragraph 2: Price cut will defintiely help because the DEMAND IS THERE. If it won't help, then please tell me why a $400 PS3 is only selling 10k less than a $200 360? Especially since you want to talk about "do you think M$ will just be twiddling their tumbs". Also, take into consideration how when the PS3 was cut to $400 the first time, it was outselling a $350 360

Paragraph 3: Nobody here said that the Wii will lose 3rd party support. The OP said that the PS3 will lose 3rd party support and that their will be a "shift of resources to the Wii". First off, if that's true, then why are all the big 3rd party titles still only on the HD consoles? Since resources are supposed to be shifted, why is there no Wii version of FFXIII...I mean Crystal Tools is SUPPOSED to run on the console, right? Why was the Wii not even considered for RE5? Why does EA still make the proper versions of their sports games on the HD consoles, while the Wii either gets the "All-Play" version, or a cartoony pseudo-NFL Blitz looking game? The only 3rd party company that anyones care about that's doing any major investing in the Wii is Sega...and with the abysmal sales of MadWorld and HotD, they have paid for it.

Paragraph 4: This is just moot. You want to talk about "which game is must have on the PS3?" What game is must have on the Wii? Mario? Zelda? Metroid? Mario Kart? Other random staple franchise? They didn't save the GC or N64, so don't use those games as examples. If you want to talk down about the PS3 because of stuff like Wii Fit and Wii Play selling millions, you're out of the loop with games. Software does in fact sell consoles, otherwise why DO you think the PS3 is only 10K below the 360, which like I said, has an entry price of $200 (you know, mass market price). If you honestly don't believe that cutting the price will not boost sales significantly, thus helping software sells also (since you want to rag on KZ2) then you're an even bigger fool than smashchu

BUT WHERE ARE THEY? Are they on shelves right now? NO. They are next year, or, coming soon. God of War 3, Gran Turism0 5, Heavy Rain,Uncharted 2.......nothing is here now, where it matters.  Your paragraph one rebuttal is weak. 3+ games to hold you over? That's hilarious. NEXT.

Paragraph 2: What demand? If demand was there,it would be beating the 360.

Paragraph 3: Check the first page of fanboy ranting in this thread, you'll see it. I'm not going to waste my time going back, now that I'm on like page 4 to look for it, but I know you might just to spite me. As for the "BIG" games as you call them, FFXIII has been in development for 5 years, back when they thought PS3 was going to be the winner of this gen. Wii didn't get RE5 because it wasn't strong enough for what they wanted to do with it, but the Wii is still getting Darkside Chronicles anyways. The Wii is getting Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles too, so it is getting a FF game as well. There is ABSOLUTELY NO POINT discussing the Wii with you BMaker, because you hate it completely, look at your signature. I'll skip now.

 

Call me a fool if you want, but the bigger fool is the one waiting for his father after he "goes out to get a pack of cigarettes"; the same position Sony fanboys are in right now, waiting for him to come back. And no, I didn'tlike Killzone 2, deal with it.

 

#1 There was an "etc." at the end for a reason. Do you really want me to name off a litter of great PS3 exclusive games that are out RIGHT NOW? Because I can. I just mentioned those 3 games because they were on the top of my head at the time. You just failed

#2 If you knew anything about economics, you'd know that price (not supply) and demand curves pretty much stay the same, but that people are willing to buy more at certain prices. Supply and demand lines can alter, but price and demand stays the same (supply vs demand is determined by manufacturers because they make the product but price vs demand is determined by the consumer market). On the same demand curve, you'll see higher sales at a lower price as you will see lower sales at a higher price. The demand is the same throughout though, because it's all one curve. With that said, if you move the price lower, with the level of demand being the same, sales would be higher. (That was a little sketchy and vague, but I took AGEC217 when I was a freshman in college, and that was a while ago).

#3 You're right, I do hate it. But that doesn't change the fact that it's not getting FFXIII. It may have been in development for 5 years, but that doesn't mean they can't tack on a Wii version. Hell, they're doing it for the 360. And Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles....you mean another spin off, just like all the FFs the Cube got? You're not proving anything. Wii not powerful enough for RE5? It wasn't powerful enough for Dead Rising, yet it still got a version (albeit crappy). Oh, and great...another rail shooter

PS You don't have to like KZ2. A lot of people on VGC don't. But because it didn't sell 10 million, you were trying to use it as a talking point to bash the PS3, which you failed at