Gallup: More Americans “Pro-Life” Than “Pro-Choice” for First Time

[vlad321]

appolose said:

vlad321 said:

appolose said:

vlad321 said:

 

That thing is no more human than the sperm or egg that made it. Would you then support making masturbation illegal?

But you see that this is a different argument, yes? You originally were contending that anti-abortionists are advocating government control of over the body.  But now, you're arguing that a fetus isn't a human.  So, would you then agree that anti-abortionists are not necessarily pro-government body control?

And I would contend that it is more human than the sperm or egg.

 

No actually, still the same argument. Since sperm is still a lump of cells which are potentially human, be it man, woman, gay, straight, yellow, black, white, puple, dotted, whatever. Should the government have the control to prvent you from doing jacking off?

How is arguing about what makes a human the same as arguing anti-abortions are pro-government body control?

And, since we seem to be taking this new argument, I've already said that it's not that fetuses are potentially human, it's that they are human.  I do not consider sperm to be human, despite their potential.

 Edit: Just saw your edit.

 

See you are the one that chcanges the argument, not I. If you wanna go down that path however, how is sperm different than a fertalized egg? It's got the outside shell, it's got chromosomes, it moves, it responds to stimuli, it moves around even! That's more than a fertalized egg can do for some weeks. Why should government take control of a woman's body just because she has something that does even less than sperm in her?