even prior to forza and right when GT came out there was a licensed game with damage so the licensing thing is bull, just look for jarret and labonta stock car racing (i know i slaughtered the names)
J&L had every thing better then the first GT but marketing... I know the first time i took a bad corner and it took the wheel off my car even though I was in first on the last lap and it pissed me off damage and that game were the way to go... i was so pissed i lost that race at the time too
also @theprof00, clearly you know nothing about forza, so please stop
@MAN it does have ferraris and they do damage
the forza license does for-bay flip-overs though, and totaling, the J&L stock car racing did not
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