Most core gamers are not "hating" more like a little taken a back at the set up of the wii online. Gamer codes is the worst idea for online period, the lack of a headset to chat it up with your bros when you guys are online (wii speak is a speaker phone knockoff), and finally the inability to allow all games to be played with the either the wii mote or a conventional controller killed this console for some people. Why? Well everyone is not all into the "waggle", some people look at the shoddy way 3rd parties implement this into their games. I personally say if you are not going to take full advantage, then give people the option of a standard controller. Proper HD upscale could have pulled more ps360 fans into the wii. To pay 900 to 10,000 dollars for a tv and then be told by a small console developer that "HD gaming is not needed" is a slap in the face to those who can and do own HD TV's. Up scaling games would have been the easiest route to allowing prospective wii owners to jump on board over the PS360 IMOB.
