Words Of Wisdom said:
Darc Requiem said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
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I have to side with NJ5 on this one MakingMusic. Look at GTAIV. Despite all of the copies it sold Take Two still lost money. Midway is bankrupt and while they put out stinkers like Area51 Blacksite, their MK titles sold well and they put out other sold titles like Stranglehold. EA despite all of the software they sell lose money continually as well. Sure a Haze or Lair will sink a smaller company but when a GTAIV or Madden title can't put your company in the black, something is truly wrong.
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Are you saying recent Madden games haven't been profitable?
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No, read the comment again.
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I read it correctly the first time. The last sentence strongly implies that Madden should be able to power all of EA on its own which is utter nonsense.
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You read my post, but completely missed the point. Everyone else seemed to get my point. Which was that you have third parties like EA that have several multimillion seller titles losing money. Your initial response "Are you saying recent Madden games haven't been profitable?" Is completely off base as isn't implied anywhere in my post. You seemed zero in on the last sentence and ignore the rest of the post entirely.
What puzzles me even more is I said in my initial post that EA loses money despite all of the software they sell. Why did I specifically list Madden and GTAIV for that matter? They are the two most well known properities of two major third parties developers that lose millions every year in spite of selling massive amounts of software. Which was the whole point of my post to begin with. NJ5 said that said that supporting the other platforms have proved financialy disasterous. The biggest third party developers being unable to profit supports his view of the situation.
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Read your last sentence again and pay attention to the "but when a GTAIV or Madden title can't put your company in the black, something is truly wrong." EA isn't failing with its flagship title; its losses are coming with other efforts AFAIK. Instead of cheekishly mentioning big name titles as if they should support the company's other ventures, you should directly call out the offenders.
Going on to talk about supporting other platforms proving dangerous is also absurd when EA has their multiplatform Madden title which shows that multiplatform games work very well for the series (though Wii/Xbox Original sales are lackluster compared to other platforms). It's not supporting other platforms that's killing companies, it's producing games for a target audience that has no interest in them that's hurting. There is no PS2 of this generation; no one console in this generation is a money machine for developers that they can put all their titles on and expect to get rich. Developers actually need to pay attention to fanbases, target audiences, and other factors now. Each time they guess wrong the market hits them with a financial loss and right now, a lot of people are guessing wrong.
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WoW, you seem to be the only one having trouble comprehending my post. You cherry picked one sentence and ignored the rest. You want to do that go ahead. I'm not going split hairs with one poster than didn't comprehend what I was trying say.
