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trestres said:
BMaker11 said:
It doesn't matter if "it doesn't sell quality games" because the "Cheap dev cost/they made profit" excuse always comes in.

I think you should rephrase it to "it doesn't sell quality 3RD party games". We all know Super Mario is going to sell. We know Smash is going to sell. We know Zelda is going to sell. But what about, well most recently, Madworld? What about Zack and Wiki? What about Tales of Symphonia? What about House of the Dead: Overkill?

You can't then just toss out the "niche" card either. With the expanded audience of the Wii, that certain "niche" for a game has to be in there somewhere. Or is that niche the "hardcore" one, which, in fact, WOULD make those games sell better on the HD consoles?

 

Trolls always bring the same old games, no creativity here, no grasp of reality. Always looking at the games that didn't sell but never at the ones that did sell, and a lot.

Let us see here for a minute, PS3 for example is a failure as a hardcore console too and I've got examples:

Valkyria Chronicles, Lost Planet, Tom Clancy's Endwar, Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon AW2, Bioshock, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas, Warhawk, Virtua Fighter 5, Mirror's Edge, Dead Space, GRiD, BattleField: Bad Company, Unreal Tournament 3, Sid Meier's Civilization Revolution, Pure, Condemned 2, Eye of Judgement, Tiger Woods PGA 07/08, Skate 2, MLB 07, Bourne Conspiracy, Virtua Tennis 3, F1: CE, Bladestorm, Disgaea 3, The Orange Box, The Godfather, Medal of Honor Airborne, Folklore, Genji, The Darkness, Silent Hill Homecoming, Enchanted Arms, Armored Core 4, Splinter Cell: Double Agent, F.E.A.R. 1 / 2, Tom Clancy's Hawx, DiRT, Eternal Sonata, Afro Samurai, X-Edge, Tears To Tiara, Sega Rally Revo, etc.

I left out a lot of "lower quality games" since we were talking about good games here. Looks like the PS3 can't sell games right? Is hardcore a niche word when we talk about PS3? Would those games have sold better on the Wii, since the hardcore market is that niche for the PS3?

Give me excuses for each one of those games and you will have a point. I suspect you won't even reply, because all you ever do is attack the Wii whenever a chance is there.

Same old games? I thought Madworld and House of the Dead just came out? And what? I DID acknowledge that games that sold, but I also acknowledged that they were first party. Name a 3rd party game outside of like.....Guitar Hero which sells well on all consoles, that the Wii sold well at? Well, I guess at that point you do have to say "same old games" because I haven't seen a quality game in a while on the Wii up until Madworld.

You can toot your little horn about the PS3 (even though I was talking about BOTH HD consoles), but fact is, the only games that sell on the Wii are 1st party and shovelware. If the argument about "quality" is inherently the 1st party, then this thread is done, because its a no brainer that the Wii DOES sell those games....but outside of that...nope.

Don't believe me? Just go to the games section, have Wii be the system, then click "sales" so it orders them in descending sales numbers. Other than Guitar Hero/Rock Band and Resident Evil 4, it's all first party (which we ALL KNOW SELLS WELL) and crap. Game, set, match

Edit: Million sellers