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Azelover on 16 March 2009
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yanamaster said:
Azelover said:
There's no way around it. A sustainable console environment cannot hold without industry support for a long time, the consumers may have spoken, but until industry decides there's a place for Wii it can only become a self fulfilling prophecy.

The Wii was going to become the PS2 of this generation, but it depended on its adoption as a leading game platform. And I'm not just talking publishers. Obviously there was tremendous potential for the Wii to continue selling for many years to come, but with all this consistent doubt it will decline. And I think it's getting around that time where whatever was making the Wii successful will fade, and only industry acceptance can bring it back again.

I'm not saying the Wii will permanently decline, but it will suffer a period of unpopularity, perhaps short. It will depend on what the industry wants to do. One thing is for sure, whatever they're hoping will rise will not be sufficient. The industry itself will suffer the most from it, not Nintendo, this is why I believe Nintendo is not done with their current path of videogame leadership.

 

i get the feeling that you don't now what you're even writing about. First off, what do you mean by self fufilling prophecy? in what way during the past 3 years has the Wii has not proven that it does not need some wishful thinking to become the most sought out gaming console of this generation?

next up, how is the Wii not the ps2 of this generation? HW-wise it's tracking ahead of the ps2, SW it offers experiences that you very much cannot get on other consoles, from a general standpoint that's pretty much what the PS2 was. And even if the gaming libraries of the two differ from each other in the amount of titles in different genres, there is no reason to believe that with time the differences won't even out ( here we simply need only to look at this year's offering on the Wii and you get the picture). Just because one set on games were popular on one system doesn't mean that the very same set of games has to be popular on the next.

And finally, your talk about the Wii declining sales-wise is quite frankly absurd given, yet again, the amount of quality titles coming out for the Wii this year that are, lo and behold, what "hardcore" gamers have been begging for, no matter be they action, fps or rpg's. The thing that seems obvious to me from your post , is that you have no idea in the first place what made the wii so popular and sell so much.

Let me tell you one thing, the industry has jack to do with how well the Wii had preformed so far and by the looks of it it will not have a much greater role later on. If the wii can sell a ton more units than the xbox during gears of war 2 and ps3 during Killzone 2 opening weeks while only going on 4 titles that had been out for practically a year, that is a prety clear sign of what's going on right now.

 

You're making a lot of personal assumptions there. Like you said "from my post" you have something to say about me, but you're not just interested in the post are you? Yet you took the time to write an even bigger post than mine. First of all, before anyone else said Nintendo would be successful in this generation I did and said widely they would be the new market leader for the next ten years, including a win of the DS against the PSP, back in 2004 for both scenarios. That was pretty bold. At that time I had never owned a Nintendo system, and had no infatuation with the company. I made the assumption based on knowledge I did have about the industry, its nature and the strategies and DNAs of all the main three companies. I may not know exactly what you're talking about, you're right that I'm not a club member but that shouldn't be an issue when it comes to simple opinions.

Is the Wii the PS2 of this gen? Yes and no. You're looking at it from the perspective of current sales only, you can't base an entire prospect based on that because consoles sell based on a number of reasons. The Wii is so popular because it is pro-social in short, that does have a ceiling. It's contributions can and will continue but this agressive growth needs the industry, it needs a mass of existing consumers to become adopters and make it remain sustainable for a long time. The DS enjoyed that, it is clear the Wii is not going to benefit from that yet, but that is my opinion. Of course I'd love for the Wii to continue its course of ever greater sales, I've been a huge proponent of Nintendo.