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S.T.A.G.E. on 05 March 2009
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Pristine20 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
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Jordahn said:
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The numbers are pretty good considering the x360's performance in Japan. M$ probably paid the differences anyway. M$ $$$ is $$$ all the same.

 

This is exactly what i've been saying. +1

Exactly.  it's pretty sad when a publisher has to accept a cash incentive to make a game instead of having to compete for the comsumers by making a quality product.  And even with Microsoft's cash incentives, SE are still in financial trouble probably because they sacrificed quality.

In the end i'm happy SE made some sort of profit. Really out of all truth and honesty they needed it. With the money MS gave SE they could've made a quality product (And you know it), but shit happens. SE aren't in financial trouble right now. FFXIII and Versus will do the trick, trust me. FFXIII will increase consoles on the 360 and the PS3. Versus will increase sales for the PS3. In the end....if you want my opinion, Sony owes SE. SE has given them great games.

 

I don't know about that part. Considering the fact that sony played a big part in saving the company after Sakaguchi's "great" movie, I'd call it a clean slate if not the other way around.

 

My reasoning for this is because SE chose Sony seeing their PSX as the perfect platform to project their titles. They ended up making a classic the first time around and continued to make great games like KH for the PS2. They are still making games featuring FFVII characters on the PSP. SE has done more than enough for Sony. Sorry man, but SE has given Sony far more than even Kojima himself.

 

The way you put it, it almost sounds like it was a parasitic relationship where S-E just kept on giving. S-E kept putting games on sony machines primarily because they believed that the games would perform best on those platforms. Some even say that sony moneyhatted FFvii (I don't believe this). However, I'm pretty sure that S-E paid less licensing fees than your average dev to release games on sony platforms. You really don't think S-E released a game like Dissidia on psp just because they wanted to help sony?

I don't really see it as a parasitic relationship. I see it more as a relationship where SE pumps out more to roll the dice on profit. I agree with you when you say they believed that they put the games on Sony to best perform on those platforms. They left Nintendo to do this. Then they gave Nintendo the Crystal Chronicles (Wow). SE was the gift that kept on giving for Sony besides Rockstar and Konami as far as I see it.

 

On sony's part, S-E did end up helping them even though it was exactly due to altruistic motives so I'd call it mutualism. However, when you add the fact that sony bailed Squaresoft out after the Spirits Within failed, the scale is basically tipped in sony's favor because that move seemed somewhat more altruistic. I'd still call it a clean slate though because a value can't really be placed on these things.

SE funded Advent Children as well. I agree that they both made business decisions, but in the end SE provided more output. Sony has only partially funded their games. It's like an on and off funding, but I see your point.