Killzone- bad guys have more appeal!?!

[Kantor]

mibuokami said:

Kantor said:

mibuokami said:

Traitors to what? They're the wrong party here! The war began when ISA renegaded on a trade agreement they sold to the colony of Alpha Centuari when they were cash strapped. It escalated to a one sided bloodbath and planetary bombardment of Vecta when Earth came in force and smashed the technologically inferior colony who had no standing military to speak of (they best they had was militia) and throw together ships that were not built for war. The Alpha Centuari colonist were outgunned and unjustly deprived of their land, true the recent action of Visari is nothing to write home about but calling the Helghast traitors is like calling the the British colonies in America traitors for their part in the War of Indepedence.

The only difference is that they won.

The action of Visari is certainly distasteful and wrong but he is by no mean the only 'bad guy' around, the ISA in fact, can be held accountable for far more death than Visari's war.

 

Aha. Thus, we have another comparison.

The Nazi similarity is there certainly, but what about the Pacific Theatre? Japan and the USA? Fat Man and Little Boy killed far more Japanese than the Japanese killed Americans, and yet the Americans are seen as the good guys. Mostly because they won, partly because it supposedly avoided more deaths.

So yes, the ISA have caused more death than Visari, but they have done it for a better reason, it seems.

Just because Visari was pressured into being evil doesn't mean it's okay. If somebody is pressured into killing another human, does that mean they aren't guilty of murder?

Better reason? A cash strapped earth sold the trading right to the citizen of Alpha Centauri for a huge sum of cash, then realize that the citizen they sold it to was getting a fat and hefty profit and decided to renegade on the agreement and invade the colony, smashed any resistence and bombard citizens when the colony refuse to surrdender is doing it for a better reason?

Bush can at least say that their might be WMD in Iraq when he started that war but this conflict began with pure naked greed. They then went ahead and colonize Vecta with loyal Earth citizens and treated the original colonist like third class citizens. When the violence between the extremist resistence force and invader finally got too much for the common citizen and force them into exile, it was the ISA that forced an embargo on the planet thus killing thousands through lack of medical aidand outright starvation.

The ISA of killzone feels more like the cliche and stereoptypical faceless heartless corporation whose mercenary ambitions and thirst for power come at the cost of human life.

Certainly, the ISA have their fair share of wrongdoings under their belt. I suppose you're right, in that they are evil, in a way. Or at least, they were.

The point is that whatever they've done has had rather awful consequences. They need to fix this. They created a monster through their evil, and leaving this monster will achieve nothing. It's too late to mend relationships and kiss and make up. The Helghast have to be defeated, it's the only way to fix things.

I suppose you do feel a little sorry for them, they've really done nothing wrong through fault of their own, but they've become uncontrollable and dangerous.

EDIT: The Iraq analogy is a good one. The ISA committed horrors with no valid reasoning, and now they're stuck. Many of them were against the invasion from the start. Many more are against it now. But the fact remains that there is no peaceful way to fix things.