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Montana Hatchet hit the nail on the head with my analogy and yeah, people do get over the edge over Halo multiplayer, I've done it with my buddies too. I am sorry Cadence, but do you anything really based in reality, hunt, play sports, exercise? I play videogames to have fun and my idea of fun is not some basturdized "motion controller". Why shoot a "wii mote" when I can just grab my air rifle and do target practice? there is a time for doing i.e. real things: outside. Then there are videogames, entering a virtual world and Nintendo making some gimmik to create the closest thing to a virtual world come alive blows via motion control simply because, they cannot reach that world with the wii mote. THe wii mote cannot match the dexterity of a human. The real route to making realism are graphics and communication which nintendo has not done. XBOX has Live and you can interact with real people and actually use some brain power to work as a team along with a mean set of hardware to produce good graphics. Playstation has good online features and Warhawk is a step in the right direction to match Live. Nintendo just will not win my heart with their sad little machine trying to create a realistic experience by pointing at the screen and shaking a stick.