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@ Crazzyman

I am bookmarking this thread because of you. I just want to see if those games - flooded with unproven IPs - will really make a difference.

I am really wondering about price points, why the Wii is hot and what the HD consoles need to do to get folks crazy about them. I really think it's the experience associated with the console itself. Folks will buy a Wii, pull it out to play with friends and maybe play a few games on it, but that's it. I think the nongamers love the Wii and have no - I repeat - no real interest in video games outside of the Wii realm. I think MS is trying to emulate the experience on LIVE without looking too childish. The avatars and the NXE is cool, but lacks the Mii aspects - how in WiiSports and WiiPlay you can see your Mii playing. That goes a very long way.

I really think as far as the Wii goes, it's smokin' and really has grannies who would have never touched a video game playing it, but I think it's one that MS and SONY can't dream of every recreating.