Pardon me for borrowing your replying style - I'm used to BBcode and have been struggling with how to quote someone with a modicum of proper appearance.
Well, some (such as myself) believe Link returned to a time after Ganondorf had already touched the Triforce, while others say he doesn't really have the Triforce of Power in TP - just the power granted to him by the goddesses (FYI, Ganondorf had some deleted dialouge about how the goddesses chose the wielders of power, and how fate will bring them together again even if he dies).
This would make a certain amount of sense, except that it is implied in Ganondorf's execution scene that the power only awoke inside of him in that moment. If it had been there before, the idea that he could have been defeated at all, much less tethered, is somewhat less believable.
The matter of him having the Triforce of Power the entire time is more problematic - if Link and Zelda don't interfere, Ganondorf should have conquered the world no problem, just as he did in the Adult Link timeline in Ocarina.
As to it being "the power of the gods" vs. "the Triforce" - well, there's no effective difference between these two concepts, since the Triforce has been shown to have its own agency an is essentially the congealed power of the gods anyway. The appearance is the same, the symbol is the same, the effect is the same - only the name is different. And the Triforce by any other name still lets Ganondorf tear off your face.
Yes, I was confused about that, too. However, the Sages say: "His name is... Ganondorf. He was the leader of a band of thieves who invaded Hyrule in the hopes of establishing dominion over the Sacred Realm. He was known as a demon thief, an evil-magic wielder renowned for his ruthlessness..."
The "band of thieves" are obviously the Gerudo. The Twili are a entirely different people that preceeded Ganondorf and his ilk. What happened to the Gerudo in TP remains a mystery (though the Hylians built a prison on top of their fortress...)
I don't know - he's always cited as leading a band of thieves in nearly every Zelda game's backstory, most famously Link to the Past. That they are Gerudo isn't something we can readily assume, though it does seem logical. Remember: since this is a different retelling, the all-female race so genetically distinct from the Hylians may have never existed in the first place. It's almost easier to ague that they were probably just a race of desert nomads.
PS. Ganondorf was such an awesome villain in TWW... Too bad his TP incarnation is nothing like he was.
I agree with this, but my feelings towards Twilight Princess Ganondorf have softened considerably. Once I considered that Wind Waker Ganon was still completely insane, that his more sympathetic traits may have been completely delusional, it helped me appreciate TP Ganon more.
And the TP version is, at the very least, the best at just wrecking everyone.
True, but if TP follows OoT's events, then he should want the entire Triforce in that game too. His expressed intent in either game is to rule the world by any means possible, after all.
Granted, but he is capable of ruling the world with only one piece. He only wanted the other pieces in Ocarina so that they would pose no threat to him. In Twilight Princess he doesn't seem entirely aware that the other pieces allow Zelda and Link to fight him at all.
It is true that he never attempts to steal the Triforces from and Zelda, which is why some people beleive they are not actually Triforce pieces.
I dunno. I'd sooner assume that it's Ganondorf's hubris.
Yes, he returned as a human Gerudo child in FSA. He apparently was raised as a normal person, but his evil grew with his age, and he eventually betrayed his people and sought out an ancient demonic artefact (the Trident of Power) that turned him into the Demon King.
Well I will be dag-blamed. I had no idea.
As to Soriku:
I'm trying to get a hold of what you're saying here. I'm hearing that it basically comes down to the idea that in each of these stories, there is a Ganondorf story and then things that continue after Ganondorf is gone for good. That about right?
