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Mistershine said:
goddog said:
Mistershine said:
goddog said:
Mistershine said:
greenmedic88 said:
Mistershine said:
greenmedic88 said:

And I have to stop you right there. Upscaler chip or no, the 360 does a worse job of upscaling than the PS3, regardless of what 1080p screen the player is using.

Watch a DVD via HDMI cable on the 360 to view the 1080p upscaled image. Then do the same on a PS3. There is no question that the upscaler chip in the 360 does a worse job of upscaling video than the PS3. In addition to producing a softer image, the 360 also has some serious de-interlacing issues with upscaled video.

The 360 is crap at DVD playback full stop, so using that to show inadequacies in scaling is a poor choice.

The inclusion of Ana/Hana in the 360 was a good move from MS, as the chip itself is a very capable scaler, and able to do it's job with 0 help from the CPU to avoid a performance hit.

Unless you don't use your Xbox to watch DVDs, it's a pretty significant inadequacy.

What's the point of adding a hardware scaling chip if it can't even do a decent job of upscaling a standard DVD signal?

If I didn't use the Xbox to watch HD-DVDs from time to time, I would leave the console set at 1280x720, rather than automatically upscale all signals to 1080p. Virtually all upscaled signals, game or otherwise, are softened in 1080p mode.

 

What I am trying to say is that a non upsacled DVD already looks shit, so upscaling it isn't going to make it look magically better.

 

are you looking at vhs/video rips onto dvd, or film on dvd, cause there is a big diferince in quality, and some bluerays are just vhs/video upscaling, and not a film downscaling, so those suck too. there are very good quality dvds out there, you just have to know what to look for, and what to avoid in the blueray market. i have found quite a few dvds that upsacled better then native bluerays ive rented to watch at my friends apartment. 

 

 Are we on the same wavelength here? I'm not saying DVDs in general are bad, just that the 360 is crap at playing them.

 

missunderstood there, sorry. but id still have to disagree with that point too... when does the 360 do dvd hardware scaling to 1080p? it does it too 480p, your tv handles the turn to 1080p if you have it set to, my tv auto adjusts to what ever output comes from my 360,  xbox, ps2, and wii. I have not used a ps3 on my tv, and have only used it on a friends tv, so not a fair comparision  

 

 Does the 360 not upscale DVDs over VGA or HDMI? I never use it to watch films other than DVD rips, and even then I only have component, so I personally don't know.

 

ive only ever seen it up scale to 480p, but i was told if you have an hddvd player it will upscale to 1080p, so theres that too



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