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Afterman said:

Bravo 360. Bravo. You reached the $200 dolar price tag in middle of  a crisis.And your competition, with it bluray, and built in wifi, and home and everything else...its at $400m, still, huge losses.

And that is exactly why it's too pricey. People complain about the 360 saying "Well if I buy everything, it's going to cost a lot more", totally disregarding the fact that if people don't buy everything, they're saving a ton. Whereas with a PS3, you don't have the option. It's all or nothing.

If I could buy a cheap PS3 with a harddrive, and forego the Blu-Ray player (am I the only one who's in no rush to replace my 300+ dvd collection?), I would have. But I have no need for Blu-Ray.