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mrstickball said:
FilaBrasileiro said:
atma998 said:
FilaBrasileiro said:

I think you're joking, let's say GT5 releases in Fall '09 (Please God), the "Others" user base will be what then? 10 million? 12? Ok, so then he's saying it'll sell a minimum of 4 million LTD in others, so at 12 million, it'd be a 30% attach rate, which is normal for a big release like GT5. 

 First it's 33.3% attach rate on a userbase of 12 M, second do you know a game with such an attach rate? And finally like I said before GT4 did 8%. Now try to be more informed next time you post.

 As mentioned, Halo 3 with a 37.3 attach rate, GTAIV is MP and is just a tad below 30% if I'm not mistaken. Now try to be more informed next time you post.

It's very, and I mean very, unlikely that GT5 is going to hit some sort of insane userbase. You can argue the GTAIV attach rates, but I can assure you that as a systems' lifespan goes on and on, the attach rate will constantly drop. If Halo 4 was suddenly released this year, the attach rate would be a decent bit lower than Halo 3 - even if it sold better.

And I'm not understanding something: GTA: San Andreas sold 16 million units on the Playstation 2. GTAIV sold under 5m as of today on the PS3. GT4 sold under 10m worldwide. How is GT5 going to suddenly increase sales when the last iteration didn't do as well on a vastly higher selling platform?

 

Isn't SA nearer 18m? Anyway, SA was the third game to launch on the PS2 (GTA game) and so obviously it had a very large user base. It was also absolutely incredible, so word of mouth gave it incredible legs. GTA IV was not so well received by players, so it hasn't had the same legs, though it will be interesting to see how it is effected by the holiday.

As for GT 4, I think it sold less because it was not too different from GT 3 and I think according to shipment figures it is just over 10m,  and so when GT 5 comes, people will want a new one for their new console, and of course the online play should help (if they actually get it right this time). If someone who got GT 3 is picking up a PS3, they are going to get 5 with their new console, because they will assume something will have changed in all those years, and course the graphics are so good an upgrade just for them is worth it