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goddog said:
dbot said:
goddog said:
well i dont think gears hs anything to do with it, last year sony put on a christmas price cut, for the second one in one year, really helped them own christmas. here ms put on one (in the states) and two in most other regions to spur sales in an older console (benifit of keeping costs down they can do it)

sonys issue is very simple, but very hard to deal with, at this point shareholders might riot, if they cut the price on the ps3 before the gaming arm posts a profit for a quarter which has not happend, though they might through this quarter losses were not so bad last one. but expect a cut as soon as sony can afford it

 

Sony has had 1 $100 price cut for the PS3 lifetime.  The redesigned 40 Gig PS3 was introduced for $400 replacing the 20 Gig at $500.

Sony is also on pace to meet their shipment target of 10 million for 2008 and they were able to outsell the 360 for most of the year despite the significant price advantage the 360 had.  The fact that Sony is able to meet their sales expectations despite the competition being more than half the price is pretty amazing.

 

I had thought the ps3 came out with a higher end unit at 600  was i wrong? if you want you can call it one cut of 200. since the 20 gig was hard to come buy always where the 60 gig was plentiful.

but out side of that 10 million in a year was a very conservative call, and the fact that they will only just be able to beat it shows the pain they are in. 

to take this further, they have had to continually strip features out of the console since launch to try and make a profit on it. thats desperate. 

and half the price only acounts for the arcade (see we can both be nit picky) so no. 

you are trying to spin this in a good light for sony, and its just not a good place for them to be at all right now. granted i do feel they can trun it around next year. will not be the power that they have in the past, but they can aim for profitablility and most likely achive it

 

The 20 gig wasnt' that hard to come by and the 40 gig isn't the same sku as the 20 gig or the 80 gig.  So you can either view it as a launch of a new product for $400 or a price cut of $100.  Either way, there was only one repricing event for the PS3.

People on this site think 10 million was a conservative number, but considering the 360 and the PS3 only sold 8 million units a piece in 2007, I would say a 2 million dollar increase is relatively aggressive.  Especially, when you take into account that they will not be adjusting their price this year.

I wish we had sku breakdowns for sales.  In my opinion, the arcade is the fastest selling xbox sku.  Unfortunately, that will remain my opinion until MS publishes some data.

I am not trying to spin anything.  I am just correcting 2 pieces of information from your post. 

 



Thanks for the input, Jeff.