^^This is kind of what i was getting at but i wanted to make sure that people were in fact referring to M rated games. I find it rather ironic that some people won't buy a game unless it is realistic, gritty or has overt violence, and these are supposedly mature games which are being played by mature gamers. Surely a mature gamer would look past the superficialities and see the game for what it is. There are games out there that while not appearing realistic, still offer a challenge to the "mature" gamer.







